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Old 09-17-2016, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The selective outrage and hypocrisy of the NCAA is the problem

The federal government and the majority of other states do not have any LGBT discrimination laws on the books. Title VII and Title IX were both written in the 60's to cover sex, not gender identity

If they were serious about helping LGBT people, then they would start with lobbying Congress and chastising ALL states with the same laws as North Carolina instead of punishing one state and its businesses to capitalize on the trendy PR move of the moment

They would also stop exporting money and legitimacy directly to oppressive governments with true human rights violations like Cuba and China
Only problem with your logic is that the state didn't advance equality, rather took steps back. A company has every right to make decisions in accordance to their stakeholders or shareholders or employees wishes. This isn't publicly funded, so you have no say in their decisions. Only thing you can do is boycott them.

Regardless, millennials flock to places with increasing entertainment options. The more entertainment that leaves, the more skilled talent leaves.

 
Old 09-17-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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Southern Conference will announce next week if they will relocate their playoff games from NC. Gee I wonder what they will do.
 
Old 09-17-2016, 09:10 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Originally Posted by vulfpeck View Post
The selective outrage and hypocrisy of the NCAA is the problem

The federal government and the majority of other states do not have any LGBT discrimination laws on the books. Title VII and Title IX were both written in the 60's to cover sex, not gender identity

If they were serious about helping LGBT people, then they would start with lobbying Congress and chastising ALL states with the same laws as North Carolina instead of punishing one state and its businesses to capitalize on the trendy PR move of the moment

They would also stop exporting money and legitimacy directly to oppressive governments with true human rights violations like Cuba and China
The founding documents of this country say all men are created equal. By that, they meant all white property-owning men.

There was a little bump in the road, even for that. New Jersey allowed unmarried (single & widowed) property-owning women to vote. That right was rescinded to join the United States. The memory of that lost right was at the bottom of the suffragette movement which resulted in giving the right to vote to black men, then women. Women have not had that right for 100 years. My grandmothers were born into a world where they could not vote.

You're pretty glib about the right-wing agenda to take away rights. There are a lot of people who are still walking around who lived in this country under Jim Crow & in a world where women were banned from certain jobs & institutions of higher learning & paying women less to do the same job was legal.

You're good at throwing up strawmen.

The reality is that the Charlotte ordinance did not make it legal to peep. It did not make it legal to touch or molest in any way. HB2 took away rights from everyone, including you. Age discrimination is alive & well. Every day you are one day closer to it.

If you don't understand why the NCAA & ACC pulled those games, I doubt that any of us will explain it to suit you. Too bad.

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Old 09-17-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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Good to see major athletes like Steph Curry calling HB2 out as unacceptable bigotry that must be repealed. Progress
 
Old 09-17-2016, 01:37 PM
 
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Still this is the Trojan Horse of the law.

"The passage [HB2] affecting discrimination lawsuits amends the North Carolina Equal Employment Practices Act (1977), which declares that it is against the state’s “public policy” to discriminate in employment “on account of race, religion, color, national origin, age, sex or handicap.” The act — which applied to businesses with 15 or more employees — did not contain explicit language allowing alleged victims of job bias to sue. But since the mid–1980s, North Carolina courts have held that the “public policy” doctrine does give people who are wrongfully fired because of discrimination the right to recover damages under common (non-statutory) law. In the space of the 12-hour special session, HB2 “wiped out this entire body of law that’s been in place for the last 30 years...”
 
Old 09-17-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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Thanks, Gov. McCrory. He keeps doing a bang up job. I'm ready for a change like yesterday.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 06:35 AM
 
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Originally Posted by vulfpeck View Post
The selective outrage and hypocrisy of the NCAA is the problem

The federal government and the majority of other states do not have any LGBT discrimination laws on the books. Title VII and Title IX were both written in the 60's to cover sex, not gender identity

If they were serious about helping LGBT people, then they would start with lobbying Congress and chastising ALL states with the same laws as North Carolina instead of punishing one state and its businesses to capitalize on the trendy PR move of the moment

They would also stop exporting money and legitimacy directly to oppressive governments with true human rights violations like Cuba and China
Title IX guidance was expanded by the OCR to include LGBT in 2011.

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Title IX’s sex discrimination prohibition extends to claims of discrimination based on gender identity or failure to conform to stereotypical notions of masculinity or femininity and OCR accepts such complaints for investigation. Similarly, the actual or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity of the parties does not change a school’s obligations
http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...4-title-ix.pdf
 
Old 09-18-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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Title IX guidance was expanded by the OCR to include LGBT in 2011.


http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...4-title-ix.pdf
The OCR doesn't have the legal authority to change law. Neither does the White House, Justice Department or Department of Education. That's what the hubbub is all about and why more than twenty states are suing the DOE for the letter threatening school funding sent out earlier this year.

"Critics’ chief argument is that the Obama administration is rewriting the definition of “sex” in “sex-based discrimination” to include gender identity. Legal scholars have said it will take the Supreme Court or an act of Congress to make clear that gender identity is protected by federal civil rights laws."
 
Old 09-18-2016, 09:59 AM
 
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Yes, and this is why decent people must vote Democratic this fall. A Clinton administration will certainly guarantee a LGBT-inclusive interpretation of Title VII is henceforth secured.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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Yes, and this is why decent people must vote Democratic this fall. A Clinton administration will certainly guarantee a LGBT-inclusive interpretation of Title VII is henceforth secured.
Or you can stop enabling a self-destructive mental illness and actually help people with gender dysphoria
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