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Phooey with the economic impact of the loss of jobs, business investment, revenue loss, etc. Really?
Getting major sports title/all star/important games, business relocation, business expansion, business investment, and convention location is very competitive among the states and HB2 gives the decision makers a reason to shop elsewhere.
Furthermore HB2 strips NC citizens rights to sue for discrimination based on age, national origin, sex, race, gender in state courts, overturning settled law since 1977.
The impact to the overall GDP will be negligible. If GDP doesn't increase on pace with last year, I'll buy you a beer.
Citizens never lost the right to sue for anything, the venue just changed. And the component barring discrimination suits in state court was repealed months ago. Do try to keep up.
"HB 2 eliminated any state law claim for wrongful termination of an employee on the basis of the color of a person's skin.
HB2 eliminated the existing state law remedy that now protects a Christian who has been terminated from their job on the basis of religion.
HB2 eliminated all existing state law remedies for women/men from being demoted, transferred, or terminated from their job because of their sex.
Before HB2, local governments, under existing law, could provide any protections from discrimination in employment on access to public accommodations for LGBT citizens.
HB2 overturned and eliminated all existing local authority to enact minimum wage standards for public-sector contractors.
HB2 overturned and eliminated all existing local ordinances and any ability to enact family leave policies, child welfare protections, limits on the number of consecutive hours an employee may be required to work without a break or health insurance standards for any contractors.
As far as the Charlotte bill.
"Charlotte took over a year to develop their ordinance; had a record of 214 pages handed to their council members, with 28 exhibits attached; sent it to the council weeks before the vote; had multiple hours of public comment and public notice weeks before the public hearing; and made a draft available to everybody who wanted to review the law.
On the other hand, House Bill 2 was developed in secret by a few folks; it was made public the morning of the vote; the committee hearing was announced on the floor of the House to follow 10 minutes later in the House; there was 45 minutes of public comment – and most of the people who signed up could not speak; the bill was sent to the floor immediately after with no public vetting; the Senate proceeded within hours; and it was signed by Governor McCrory that night.
Twelve hours from origination to ratification – a record."
The legislature has all but said if they repeal their ordinance, HB2 will be repealed. Ball's in Charlotte's court.
Ball has always been in the governor's court since he signed the bill. The Charlotte move is just a ruse by the governor shift the blame and there is no way they will repeal HB2, since it expressly forbids local ordinances and protections for LGBT citizens, and strips rights from all NC citizens as described before.
Unlike many armchair quarterbacks around here, I've read the actual law and Charlotte's ordinance both in their entirety. I corrected you because you said citizens can't sue in state court. That is no longer a component of HB2.
Ball has always been in the governor's court since he signed the bill. The Charlotte move is just a ruse by the governor shift the blame and there is no way they will repeal HB2, since it expressly forbids local ordinances and protections for LGBT citizens, and strips rights from all NC citizens as described before.
I remember when Charlotte was warned about their poor wording by the General Assembly. Well before they passed their ordinance. They went ahead anyway. HB2 would not exist if Charlotte had heeded the warnings and worked with the NCGA. Now they're getting a second chance and it appears they will be just as stubborn. Odd, since their city stands to lose the most.
Charlotte did the right thing. The governor and legislature did the wrong thing, and accordingly, earned international denunciation and rebuke. The world is rebuking the bigoted governor and legislature for their actions, not Charlotte. Stand strong and proud Charlotte.
Charlotte specifically mandated that no business could stop men (that look like men and are biological men) from being in the women's shower. How is that the right thing?
Unlike many armchair quarterbacks around here, I've read the actual law and Charlotte's ordinance both in their entirety. I corrected you because you said citizens can't sue in state court. That is no longer a component of HB2.
Yes the legislature repealed that provision of HB2, however it was part of the original HB2.
I remember when Charlotte was warned about their poor wording by the General Assembly. Well before they passed their ordinance. They went ahead anyway. HB2 would not exist if Charlotte had heeded the warnings and worked with the NCGA. Now they're getting a second chance and it appears they will be just as stubborn. Odd, since their city stands to lose the most.
Sorry, but the Charlotte law at the time it was passed was entirely legal.
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