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Old 10-29-2016, 11:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by mlhm5 View Post
Yeah, but the taxpayers are and that is a reason to make them as hard to get for anyone under 18 just like alcohol and raise the price so it makes it harder to start smoking.
You are wanting to fight a battle that will never be won.
Kids will always find a way to get tobacco, liquor, drugs and any other contraband item they want and there is nothing that will stop them.
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Old 10-30-2016, 12:12 AM
 
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I think that you have a much stronger argument. People have a right to smoke; people have a right to breathe clean air. They used to say "the right to swing your fist stops short of my nose."

I don't know how old you are, but in my early working days, when dinosaurs still roamed the earth, I was often confined in small conference rooms with ten other people -- two smoking cigars, one a pipe, and three or four smoking cigarettes. It was ghastly. One time the senior man asked "is it OK if I smoke a cigar?" One of my older colleagues said "would it do any good to say 'yes'?" To his credit, the senior man stopped smoking in close quarters from that day on. He was a good guy.

On the other hand, I am one of the few people (I guess) who actually enjoys a whiff of good second-hand cigar or pipe smoke (in moderation, outdoors).
I've never worked in an office that allowed smoking. I do remember when you could smoke in Crabtree Valley Mall, though. And the smoking areas in local hospitals.

I can imagine it would've been unpleasant to be trapped in a conference room with so much air pollutants.

I actually like to catch a whiff of a good cigar or some pipe tobacco, too. I think it's because I grew up around them and pleasant smells are great memory triggers.

But, ultimately, I just don't think it's right to bombard the public with noxious funes from smoking. Too many nonsmoking flight attendants have developed lung cancer for me not to be convinced that second-hand smoke should be avoided.
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