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Old 08-18-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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You would if you were a Cherokee!
Are you... disagreeing with your own argument?

You were saying it's a slippery slope from removing Confederate monuments to removing monuments to presidents like Jackson. I'm saying it isn't, because most people dislike Andrew Jackson and would be fine with bumping him off the currency, among other things. Not much a slippery slope, that one.
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Old 08-18-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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That's because contributed the 2nd most soldiers to the CSA and we are tied with VA for highest number of deaths.
Kentucky contributed more soldiers to the Union than the Confederacy. Why do they have ten times more confederate monuments, other than to fetishize and worship at the altar of white supremacy? Not for history lessons, that's for sure.
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Old 08-18-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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Are you... disagreeing with your own argument?

You were saying it's a slippery slope from removing Confederate monuments to removing monuments to presidents like Jackson. I'm saying it isn't, because most people dislike Andrew Jackson and would be fine with bumping him off the currency, among other things. Not much a slippery slope, that one.
Sorry you weren't clear. I suspect New Orleans will have to cease to exist before the statue of Jackson comes down there.
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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Um, we lost the War of 1812 and the Vietnam War. Should we remove all monuments dedicated to those as well?
Those monuments are dedicated to the Americans that lost their lives in those wars. The Confederates were not Americans by definition.
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Those monuments are dedicated to the Americans that lost their lives in those wars. The Confederates were not Americans by definition.
Untrue. The United States never recognized the CSA, thus no citizenship ever changed. And that has nothing to do with either my post, nor the post I was responding to.
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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They took all the Lee's and put them in a Lee Museum................
You have to finish it with the NC legislature in mind!


"And they charged the people a dollar and a half (plus state and local sales tax) just to see 'em!"
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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Untrue. The United States never recognized the CSA, thus no citizenship ever changed.
Then the Confederates took up arms against their own countrymen and were traitors by definition. You simply cannot have this both ways.
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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Then the Confederates took up arms against their own countrymen and were traitors by definition. You simply cannot have this both ways.
I haven't attempted to have it both ways. G. Washington was a traitor too.
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:06 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I haven't attempted to have it both ways. G. Washington was a traitor too.
Well then, who were the "good guys"?
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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Well then, who were the "good guys"?
Not sure what you mean.

The native americans would say there are no good guys. Slaves transported to this country in the cargo holds of ships owned by northern merchants would say there are no good guys. Children exploited in New England textile mills would say there are no good guys. Etc., etc. The concept that southerners were/are bad and northerners were/are good is laughable.
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