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Old 09-28-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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I am from California, and lived in Fayetteville for about 11 years total since 1998 (currently in Sanford, NC). Here I will give you specific experiences of my time there, not just generalized opinions. Fayetteville has good and bad like any place. I actually hope my assessment sounds schizophrenic in its take, as I want to emphasize both the pros and the cons. Too many posts here make it either sound like Hell (which it isn't), or sugar-coat things to the detriment of people that move here. That being said, here it is:

Pros:

Lots of retail locations; this is one of the best retail markets in the country, meaning businesses do some of their best business here. Therefore you can expect to find most of what you want here without having to go out of town.
Because of the military, there are also a variety of restaurants. Fayetteville is also somewhat of a melting pot because of the international nature of the military, so you will find people from all over the world here, and therefore also a lot of international cuisine if you know where to look. I'm from Souther California, and grew up on real Mexican food. I've been all over the east coast, and some of the "closest to home" Mexican food I've found was in Fayetteville (El Cazador, specifically).
Speaking of the international nature of things as above, when I worked retail, at one time at a job I had we had employees that could speak Russian, Spanish, and German, and were from Russia, South America, and Germany (military wives). If you look hard enough, you should be able to find someone from "your country" if you are an immigrant.
Despite what some residents say, there is plenty to do in Fayetteville and there should be people that share your interests if you look for them. I'm from a small town (population 15k) a hundred miles from the next city (with +100k population), so I know what it's like to REALLY have nothing to do. Fayetteville offers indoor rock climbing, several parks, indoor skydiving, a nice downtown atmosphere, an indie movie theater, and many other things. Not as much as a larger city, but that's pretty obvious.
Fayetteville is near the center of the state, so you have faster access to the beach that someone living in the western part of the state, but faster access to the mountains than people in the east, giving you the advantage of doing either over a weekend. If you like variety like that, Fayetteville is a good choice. Raleigh is also only just over an hour away as well. California was just too big to do these things in a timely manner, at least where I was from in California.


Cons:
Yes, there is crime in Fayetteville, and a lot of it. Stay away from the greyhound station downtown, I had a bad experience there getting panhandled at night by several rough looking characters. Stay away from Murchison road. If you have to go to Skibo Road Walmart, do so during the day. There has been some bad stuff happening there at night. I once had someone approaching me in a threatening manner that I had to ward off with the universal language of a cocking pistol. There are also many places down Bragg Blvd. you have to be careful about. I lived in the outskirts of Bonnie Doone off of Bragg Blvd, and I remember hearing gunshots every day, trunk deals in front of my duplex, and constant other crimes going on at all times of the day. The place I lived was only $255 a month back in '02, so that was probably a red flag to begin with. There are good neighborhoods too, so you should be ok if you don't stay in a rough area of town.
Even if you stay in a good neighborhood, avoid night activity in isolated or sparsely populated places. Several of my coworkers got robbed right outside the store (Best Buy) when I worked there, as most of us were still inside closing. One of my other coworkers decided to go to Wendy's with his friends and eat outside at night, and a guy came out of the woods and robbed them at gunpoint. I've personally never experienced a robbing or mugging, but I'm vigilant and I get night activities done FAST. When I was in the military there, I also had a friend of mine get punched simply because he was trying to park and this guy thought my friend was driving too close to the guy's son.
If you are looking for a career here, it can be hard unless you already have a good job. This place is filled with retail, and that's about the best you're going to do. There are a few industries, but competition will be high. Also, the cost to rent seemed a bit high to me for a place like this (excepting the $255/month ghetto I described earlier), probably due to the realtors being spoiled with guaranteed military money.
Also, if you are a single male, expect one of the toughest singles markets in the country. There are far more guys here than women, and for that reason alone Fayetteville is not a place for single guys.


There's more than just this, I'll just have to add to this later as I'm pressed for time.
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Old 09-28-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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In 2019 Fayetteville's new downtown minor league stadium will open.
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:23 AM
 
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Fayetteville is soul crushing I'm afraid. It's not a city, but a series of subdivisions connected by "strips" of ugly commercial areas. There are no actual neighborhoods in the sense of places where homes are clustered around parks and shopping areas that one can actually walk to. I know the city is trying in some ways to make it more appealing, but it's akin to putting lipstick on a pig. The area just isn't designed right and they can never change that. This may sound biased as well, but the education level here is abysmal. The town does not attract highly educated people for the most part. I think those people move to Raleigh/Durham or Charlotte. The town is over-represented by people with a superficial flag-waving, monster truck Americanism and lots of Christian crosses and Jesus stickers.

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Old 02-09-2019, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Unless Fayetteville gets an international airport with direct flights to many urban centers across the country, its going to have an uphill battle attracting industry and corporate headquarters. Thats what leads to growth and development. Convert Fayetteville Regional Airport to an international airport. Also Being isolated away from the hot I-85 corridor doesn't help either. A state legislator had proposed a 3 digit I-95 spur from Fayetteville to Greensboro via Hwy 421 but don't know if that proposal has legs. The idea for the Interstate is to attract industry to mega sites along that corridor. That would certainly benefit Fayetteville. Fayetteville is about an hour and 40 minutes from Greensboro. But if hwy 421 were upgraded to an interstate with a speed limit of 70 mph, it would cut that time down. This better connects Fayetteville with larger urban centers across the state so that it is less isolated.

Fayetteville also needs to improve its institutions of higher learning with new programs. Fayetteville State University is the city's largest college maybe add an engineering and technology and bioscience program. In addition the city should continue to focus on downtown revitalization. The ballpark is a good start but downtown could also use a large urban park which could serve as a venue for downtown events and festivals. I know it has Festival Park and an even smaller Cross Creek Park but it needs something larger that can host more activities and attract more people. Fayetteville needs a true urban park. Also Fayetteville is considering replacing the auditorium at Crown Coliseum. This is the perfect opportunity to build a new performing arts center downtown (1,500 to 2,000 seats). Build it on part of the Festival Park land and improve Festival Park and make it a real urban park with fountains. It would be within walking distance to the new ballpark and hotel. These ideas could help jumpstart a true urban renewal and create more energy and excitement downtown. It would be nice if downtown Fayetteville had a convention center/hotel. But again a better interstate network and international airport could help make that happen. Interstate spurs to I-40 and I-74 would better connect Fayetteville with Wilmington and Charlotte. Fayetteville needs to start getting serious about attracting jobs and growth. Get legislators and senators to lobby for better interstate connections and an international.airport like other larger cities in the state have done.

Fayetteville to study new performing arts center

https://www.fayobserver.com/news/201...ng-arts-center

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Old 02-09-2019, 07:44 PM
 
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Unless Fayetteville gets an international airport with direct flights to many urban centers across the country, its going to have an uphill battle attracting industry and corporate headquarters. Thats what leads to growth and development. Convert Fayetteville Regional Airport to an international airport. Also Being isolated away from the hot I-85 corridor doesn't help either. A state legislator had proposed a 3 digit I-95 spur from Fayetteville to Greensboro via Hwy 421 but don't know if that proposal has legs. The idea for the Interstate is to attract industry to mega sites along that corridor. That would certainly benefit Fayetteville. Fayetteville is about an hour and 40 minutes from Greensboro. But if hwy 421 were upgraded to an interstate with a speed limit of 70 mph, it would cut that time down. This better connects Fayetteville with larger urban centers across the state so that it is less isolated.

Fayetteville also needs to improve its institutions of higher learning with new programs. Fayetteville State University is the city's largest college maybe add an engineering and technology and bioscience program. In addition the city should continue to focus on downtown revitalization. The ballpark is a good start but downtown could also use a large urban park which could serve as a venue for downtown events and festivals. I know it has Festival Park and an even smaller Cross Creek Park but it needs something larger that can host more activities and attract more people. Fayetteville needs a true urban park. Also Fayetteville is considering replacing the auditorium at Crown Coliseum. This is the perfect opportunity to build a new performing arts center downtown (1,500 to 2,000 seats). Build it on part of the Festival Park land and improve Festival Park and make it a real urban park with fountains. It would be within walking distance to the new ballpark and hotel. These ideas could help jumpstart a true urban renewal and create more energy and excitement downtown. It would be nice if downtown Fayetteville had a convention center/hotel. But again a better interstate network and international airport could help make that happen. Interstate spurs to I-40 and I-74 would better connect Fayetteville with Wilmington and Charlotte. Fayetteville needs to start getting serious about attracting jobs and growth. Get legislators and senators to lobby for better interstate connections and an international.airport like other larger cities in the state have done.

Fayetteville to study new performing arts center

https://www.fayobserver.com/news/201...ng-arts-center
This makes no sense. "An international airport with flights to urban centers across the country." What? International means service to OTHER countries. And "legislators and senators" (aren't senators members of the legislature?) can't magically create international airports...airlines do, based on market demand for the flights. Not many cities with a population of 200,000 have an international airport.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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This makes no sense. "An international airport with flights to urban centers across the country." What? International means service to OTHER countries. And "legislators and senators" (aren't senators members of the legislature?) can't magically create international airports...airlines do, based on market demand for the flights. Not many cities with a population of 200,000 have an international airport.
Not all international airports have flights to other countries. PTI is an example. Also Wilmington has an International airport and its population is under 100,000.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Sanford, NC
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Itís 10:00 Saturday night and Iím reading this while sitting across from the bus station photographing trains. What are the odds of that! LOL

ďStay away from the greyhound station downtown, I had a bad experience there getting panhandled at night by several rough looking characters.Ē
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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Not all international airports have flights to other countries. PTI is an example. Also Wilmington has an International airport and its population is under 100,000.
According to the latest census estimate (2017) the population was 119,045.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...lina/PST045217

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A state legislator had proposed a 3 digit I-95 spur from Fayetteville to Greensboro via Hwy 421 but don't know if that proposal has legs.
It was suggested by an economic developer from the Triad and given that it was almost 2 years ago and no further talk of it since, I think it’s safe to say that it fell on it’s face. Jacksonville also tried it’s hand at getting an interstate last year and it went nowhere. Apparently, towns think the state can just throw interstates around willy-nilly. Unless there’s an act of Congress, the state has to be able to provide a satisfactory justification for a future interstate to AASHTO and FHWA. If they can’t, then it gets denied.

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Old 02-10-2019, 04:28 AM
 
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Not all international airports have flights to other countries. PTI is an example. Also Wilmington has an International airport and its population is under 100,000.
Wrong.

And the designation of "international" is pointless. Having more flights to more locations is the point. Politicians can't make that happen. Airlines can.

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Old 02-10-2019, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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According to the latest census estimate (2017) the population was 119,045.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...lina/PST045217



It was suggested by an economic developer from the Triad and given that it was almost 2 years ago and no further talk of it since, I think it’s safe to say that it fell on it’s face. Jacksonville also tried it’s hand at getting an interstate last year and it went nowhere. Apparently, towns think the state can just throw interstates around willy-nilly. Unless there’s an act of Congress, the state has to be able to provide a satisfactory justification for a future interstate to AASHTO and FHWA. If they can’t, then it gets denied.
True. However when Wilmington got an international airport its population was below 100,000

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Wrong.

And the designation of "international" is pointless. Having more flights to more locations is the point. Politicians can't make that happen. Airlines can.
Designation and flights mean everything when trying to attract companies. Before 1987 PTI was called Greensboro, Winston-Salem, High Point Regional Airport. The international designation regardless of whether there are international flights or not means a lot. Btw PTI briefly had a flight to Toronto. Politicians have more influence then you think. There influence alone can't change an airports designation but it helps.
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