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LOL. Cities don't talk. A poster told you to get over it, not a city. I'd imagine your argument would change if you inserted DC(# 25), San Fran(#20) or San Diego(#30) into your little equation from your own article.
What's quite pitiful is your meltdown speaking on grade school popularity contests; something that most grown adults have moved past, but clearly a few posters in the Capital city have not.
Twice the size no good colleges how does that happen lmao at least they got the panthers
Raleigh is at least 50% people from smaller NC towns.
Raleigh doesn't try to be anything more than an overgrown small town, which is what NC is compromised mostly of.
At least since you're in Durham you can confirm that the Triangle isn't full of people concerned about becoming a big city, nor do people express any envy or desire to become like Charlotte.
Defending Raleigh and the rest of the state is not the same offense as Charlotte folks thinking they're too good to even belong in NC. I am here just to cut Charlotte folk's ego down to a realistic size.
Perhaps SC is a better fit and Charlotte should change its statehood.
I'm more than justified to be on here and bring the inflated and misinformed opinions back down to earth. like the assertions that Charlotte is in league above that of the rest of the state. True only in ambition, and building heights, and its physical and infrastructure components that are more "large city" than anywhere else in the state.
The biggest misnomer is that Raleigh and points East are more redneck than Charlotte and Western NC.
Annexation, building heights and business travelers haven't made Charlotte more sophisticated than the university-heavy Triangle where living un.derstated is the norm, and old money folks drive Fords but also host Presidential fundraisers at $25,000 per plate.
Nascar, neighboring SC (more primitive than almost all the others), and proximity to Appalachia are huge factors weighing on Charlotte. Together they seem to influence what's considered good style, taste, and clothing and remaining in-step with major US ctiies. (Raleigh doesn't care or try, but the universities keep it somewhat current)
So if Charlotte is twice as big and twice the city that fine. Keep using those statistics and never mention the county populations which are the same or that the Triangle as it was always defined up until recently when census split it into 2 separate MSAs has about 300,000 less people than Charlotte's metro population.
And don't believe for a minute that in 2040 that due to SC counties not being included, that the Triangle is expected to be the most populous region in NC with a population of 3.2 million.
It is grade school and juvenile to defend Raleigh so I'll bow out now from this thread.
Last edited by architect77; 08-06-2018 at 08:15 PM..
Large metros are defined as having more than a million people. 52 of the nations 235 metro areas are in that catagory. Metro Charlotte (1,950,000 people in 9 counties), Metro Raleigh (1,420,000 in 6 counties), and Metro Greensboro (1,300,000 in 6 counties). 3 major metros.
If these numbers are correct from 2006, then all I can say is
Looking at the Triangle in comparisons to these numbers, just the two core counties were near 1.4 million in 2017, with 1.07+ million coming from Wake alone. Given the typical growth numbers, they are easily nearing 1.42 million today.
Raleigh is at least 50% people from smaller NC towns.
Raleigh doesn't try to be anything more than an overgrown small town, which is what NC is compromised mostly of.
At least since you're in Durham you can confirm that the Triangle isn't full of people concerned about becoming a big city, nor do people express any envy or desire to become like Charlotte.
Defending Raleigh and the rest of the state is not the same offense as Charlotte folks thinking they're too good to even belong in NC. I am here just to cut Charlotte folk's ego down to a realistic size.
Perhaps SC is a better fit and Charlotte should change its statehood.
I'm more than justified to be on here and bring the inflated and misinformed opinions back down to earth. like the assertions that Charlotte is in league above that of the rest of the state. True only in ambition, and building heights, and its physical and infrastructure components that are more "large city" than anywhere else in the state.
The biggest misnomer is that Raleigh and points East are more redneck than Charlotte and Western NC.
Annexation, building heights and business travelers haven't made Charlotte more sophisticated than the university-heavy Triangle where living un.derstated is the norm, and old money folks drive Fords but also host Presidential fundraisers at $25,000 per plate.
Nascar, neighboring SC (more primitive than almost all the others), and proximity to Appalachia are huge factors weighing on Charlotte. Together they seem to influence what's considered good style, taste, and clothing and remaining in-step with major US ctiies. (Raleigh doesn't care or try, but the universities keep it somewhat current)
So if Charlotte is twice as big and twice the city that fine. Keep using those statistics and never mention the county populations which are the same or that the Triangle as it was always defined up until recently when census split it into 2 separate MSAs has about 300,000 less people than Charlotte's metro population.
And don't believe for a minute that in 2040 that due to SC counties not being included, that the Triangle is expected to be the most populous region in NC with a population of 3.2 million.
It is grade school and juvenile to defend Raleigh so I'll bow out now from this thread.
So now you are belittling the good folks of South Carolina? Both Raleigh and Durham wanna urbanize and get taller but the demand and resources aren't on the level of Charlotte's current growth trend. Will either get there? Maybe but the area has a nodal structure so the core cities split the wealth so to speak, yet I envision Raleigh hitting a height growth spurt over the next decade....wez a trying. Lots of momentum at North Hills area along with RTP that detracts growth from downtown Raleigh.
If Raleigh ever builds a structure taller than anything in Charlotte, you'll be the first on here touting how it fits within Raleigh's Huckleberry Finn style with Ole Boy Roy William's Awe Shucks it just kind of happened....we still just a big ole Kinston...GTFOH, lol, too funny.
Charlotte is “contemporary, mildly posh country” lol ... we’ve discussed this many times . And I don’t think any “city” in NC is even reached a point to be considered overrated.
I haven't visited Durham yet, but I'd definitely say the rest of the cities on that list deserve the praise they get. If anything, I find GSO/WS to be a little underrated.
Only thing overrated about any of those cities are the suburbs - the same standard boring fare you get in most suburbs in the southeast. The cores of the cities are great, though.
I haven't visited Durham yet, but I'd definitely say the rest of the cities on that list deserve the praise they get. If anything, I find GSO/WS to be a little underrated.
Only thing overrated about any of those cities are the suburbs - the same standard boring fare you get in most suburbs in the southeast. The cores of the cities are great, though.
I agree. Anyone relocating to NC cities expecting Chicago or New York City bustle is obviously out of touch with reality, matter of fact most people that move here from large urban environments are seeking a moderate/slower pace lifestyle. And NC cities are more akin to what most of America looks like, a tad urban but mostly suburban/small town/rural.
I work an hour from there, and will often weekend there for recreation, but I don't think I'd like living there.
On a day to day basis, it is EXPENSIVE. I saw regular unleaded for $2.99 off the Old Charlotte Highway Sunday. There are few professional jobs. There are well-known issues with rents being high, salaries being low, and the overall cost of living being high. Shopping is OK - not good, not great, but you'll still need to go to Greenville or Charlotte for some things.
I don't consider any of them overrated. They don't get nearly as much hype as NYC or Boston or Philadelphia or LA, etc.
Also, it doesn't matter to me if NC has any large cities or not. I don't see why that's a big deal. I like that NC doesn't have cities as large as NYC, LA, etc.
I agree. Overrated compared to what? What is a properly rated city/metro? I know everything in America is rated from cars, to appliances, to electronics. What does it mean to live in a "properly rated city?"
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