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I live in Durham now, and while it is much better, there are many parts of Durham which are mirror images of Fayetteville. NC Central/East Durham is much like the Murch in Fayetteville, for example. Even Raleigh has its own "little Fayetteville" in the Capital Blvd area.
The difference is, Raleigh and Durham, while they have their bad areas, they also have many positives going for them. Fayetteville has very little going for it. The entire city is what I would call a bad area. There are a few nice areas, like Haymont, but even in those nice areas, they still have a problem with crime.
The difference is, Raleigh and Durham, while they have their bad areas, they also have many positives going for them. Fayetteville has very little going for it. The entire city is what I would call a bad area. There are a few nice areas, like Haymont, but even in those nice areas, they still have a problem with crime.
It depends all on what your income is. If you can afford to live in higher income areas of Fayetteville, which by the way, aren't the areas you'll be driving through, then you will find Fayetteville to be really nice. Fayetteville has tons of areas that are much better than Haymount, and much larger, however Haymount is just the most notable due to its proximity to downtown, and lots of people go downtown. For instance, the areas around Dundle/Fisher Road, Village Dr/Robeson St, Ramsey Street around I-295, Cliffdale around Hoke Loop and Raeford Roads are only a handful of pristine areas in the city that have good schools, shopping options, and major office parks. Those areas also have higher income ranges and much more expensive housing options compared to the areas around major thoroughfares like Skibo, Murchison, and the majority of Raeford/U.S. 401, Bragg, and U.S. 301.
For comparison, my area east of downtown Fayetteville has a median house price of 250,000-3xx,000 and has over 10,000 residents - and unless you really know Fayetteville, you wouldn't know the Baywood Road area exists, hell, people that have lived here their entire life don't have a clue about how vibrant Fayetteville's newest up-and-coming areas are. Some don't even know theirs a second Harris Teeter.
As far as crime goes, it really depends on where you're at. Like you and I both know, in any city, the lower the income, the higher the crime. If you live in newer or higher end areas of the city, you'll have lower crime and an overall better environment.
Also, to say "Fayetteville has very little going for it" is definitely false. You're undermining the Segra Stadium, which costs $7 million more in Today's money than Durham Bulls Athletic Center. The fact that by the end of the year* Fayetteville's tallest building will be topped with a high-rise office and Hyatt hotel structure downtown, that the once long-time abandoned Prince Charles Hotel now features condos that are renting out at a much more accelerated rate than anticipated, that Fayetteville has a $65 Million dollar museum under construction downtown (in comparison, Fayetteville's Airborne/Special Ops museum was only $23M) , that Fayetteville has a $678 Million dollar highway under construction, that Fayetteville is experiencing the fastest population growth not due to annexation in decades, that Cape Fear Valley Medical Center is expanding residency in downtown Fayetteville, that plans are unfolding for Fayetteville to receive a Performing Arts Center, that suburbs of Fayetteville in Hoke, Harnett, and Grays Creek are growing at a faster rate than never before, in fact I'm willing to bet money that by 2024, Harnett County will be part of Fayetteville MSA considering the majority of the county's growth occurs at the Cumberland border. Not to mention, Fayetteville now has the second largest Mercedes-Benz dealership in the state, and has corporations moving to the city in record numbers since the 1960s*. Those are just a handful of things the city has done very recently (except I-295, that's been in progress for a while), but everything else I've listed has only been in the last year or 2. I'm not sure if this is true, but I read a few months ago that Fayetteville has the fastest increasing median income in the state which can be assumed to be a result of the better paying jobs coming to the city.
Yes, Fayetteville has its issues, but ever since I moved here, it's become more and more desirable each day and I'm proud to call it home seeing how fast the last 2 mayors have dealt with them.
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It’s quite simple. Places like High Point are part of much larger metro areas seeing much larger growth. Fayetteville is neither experiencing the rapid growth the larger places in the state are, not serve as a tourist destination for those that live here (Asheville, Wilmington). It’s thus an out-of-sight, out-of-mind place. It’s the Hickory of ENC.
Cape Fear is key to improving this town. Fayetteville has the potential to be like Greenville SC, which is also on a river. The city was born as an inland port, but the Cape Fear river has been "forgotten" over past several decades (when Ft. Bragg became ascendant). Maybe as downtown keeps revitalizing, more attention can be paid to the Cape Fear. No reason why Fayetteville can't have a riverfront development, even though its river bluffs are high.
It depends all on what your income is. If you can afford to live in higher income areas of Fayetteville, which by the way, aren't the areas you'll be driving through, then you will find Fayetteville to be really nice. Fayetteville has tons of areas that are much better than Haymount, and much larger, however Haymount is just the most notable due to its proximity to downtown, and lots of people go downtown. For instance, the areas around Dundle/Fisher Road, Village Dr/Robeson St, Ramsey Street around I-295, Cliffdale around Hoke Loop and Raeford Roads are only a handful of pristine areas in the city that have good schools, shopping options, and major office parks. Those areas also have higher income ranges and much more expensive housing options compared to the areas around major thoroughfares like Skibo, Murchison, and the majority of Raeford/U.S. 401, Bragg, and U.S. 301.
For comparison, my area east of downtown Fayetteville has a median house price of 250,000-3xx,000 and has over 10,000 residents - and unless you really know Fayetteville, you wouldn't know the Baywood Road area exists, hell, people that have lived here their entire life don't have a clue about how vibrant Fayetteville's newest up-and-coming areas are. Some don't even know theirs a second Harris Teeter.
As far as crime goes, it really depends on where you're at. Like you and I both know, in any city, the lower the income, the higher the crime. If you live in newer or higher end areas of the city, you'll have lower crime and an overall better environment.
Also, to say "Fayetteville has very little going for it" is definitely false. You're undermining the Segra Stadium, which costs $7 million more in Today's money than Durham Bulls Athletic Center. The fact that by the end of the year* Fayetteville's tallest building will be topped with a high-rise office and Hyatt hotel structure downtown, that the once long-time abandoned Prince Charles Hotel now features condos that are renting out at a much more accelerated rate than anticipated, that Fayetteville has a $65 Million dollar museum under construction downtown (in comparison, Fayetteville's Airborne/Special Ops museum was only $23M) , that Fayetteville has a $678 Million dollar highway under construction, that Fayetteville is experiencing the fastest population growth not due to annexation in decades, that Cape Fear Valley Medical Center is expanding residency in downtown Fayetteville, that plans are unfolding for Fayetteville to receive a Performing Arts Center, that suburbs of Fayetteville in Hoke, Harnett, and Grays Creek are growing at a faster rate than never before, in fact I'm willing to bet money that by 2024, Harnett County will be part of Fayetteville MSA considering the majority of the county's growth occurs at the Cumberland border. Not to mention, Fayetteville now has the second largest Mercedes-Benz dealership in the state, and has corporations moving to the city in record numbers since the 1960s*. Those are just a handful of things the city has done very recently (except I-295, that's been in progress for a while), but everything else I've listed has only been in the last year or 2. I'm not sure if this is true, but I read a few months ago that Fayetteville has the fastest increasing median income in the state which can be assumed to be a result of the better paying jobs coming to the city.
Yes, Fayetteville has its issues, but ever since I moved here, it's become more and more desirable each day and I'm proud to call it home seeing how fast the last 2 mayors have dealt with them.
Harnett County is already apart of Fayetteville MSA, I think Moore County should be next.
Cape Fear is key to improving this town. Fayetteville has the potential to be like Greenville SC, which is also on a river. The city was born as an inland port, but the Cape Fear river has been "forgotten" over past several decades (when Ft. Bragg became ascendant). Maybe as downtown keeps revitalizing, more attention can be paid to the Cape Fear. No reason why Fayetteville can't have a riverfront development, even though its river bluffs are high.
It takes more than being on a river to be like Greenville.
nice little video on fayetteville, and believe it or not it really does have some good places to eat, some of the best bulgogi I ever had was in fayetteville also there's so many people that don't know about the zipline place, but it's a real cool place to check
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Lots of the flack it gets isn't deserved, some is absolutely deserved lol but it's no where near as bad as people on this forum make it out to be, and does have some nice things as well as a few good festivals too.
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