U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Covid-19 Information Page
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-09-2020, 10:58 AM
 
2,704 posts, read 3,846,447 times
Reputation: 1575

Advertisements

On March 17th Gov Cooper outlawed mass gatherings (concerts, festivals, etc...) and said no one should visit nursing homes.

On March 23rd he closed schools for almost two months

Here is an article on March 29th regarding emergency plans for nursing homes...

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/29/coro...planned-worst/

SC has issued over twice as many citations to nursing homes for not having plans as NC, even though NC has a whole lot more nursing homes.

The governor yesterday, 15 days after he closed schools, put in place standards for nursing homes to deal with COVID...only after two big outbreaks occurred...60 cases in an Orange County facility and 30 cases in a Moore County facility. You may recall that the original COVID case in NC occurred because of the outbreak in a Washington State nursing home.

Nursing Home tenants have a 20-30% case of DYING if they get the virus. For context, no child under the age of 9 around the world has died from the virus. So Nursing homes should have been a much more focal point than schools. 80% of the deaths are over 65 years old. EIGHTY PERCENT.

The whole point of social distancing was to prevent death and try not to put our hospital system in the situation of choosing who dies. Seems the Governor was more concerned with social distancing restrictions than focusing policies on the 80% who might die. What's even worse is that people living in nursing homes are actually quarantined. Its their home, and they have gone nowhere.

Its time to start asking hard questions...why is the State so lax in citing nursing homes for their emergency plans? Why weren't restrictions placed on nursing homes from the outset?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-09-2020, 01:43 PM
 
2,064 posts, read 1,068,639 times
Reputation: 2105
Maybe the real question is why don't nursing homes do the right thing and protect their patients without the state forcing them to so?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2020, 05:17 PM
 
3,345 posts, read 3,148,011 times
Reputation: 4906
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward Teach View Post
Maybe the real question is why don't nursing homes do the right thing and protect their patients without the state forcing them to so?
ABSOLUTELY!!! and yes I am shouting it.

We are turning into a "nanny" state where everyone thinks the elected official and the government agency should be one step ahead of care for each and every one of us.

I'm no fan of Cooper, but he's dong an admirable job of handling the state in light of recent circumstances, but God knows the man (and his staff) can't think of everything. There MUST be some degree of personal responsibility.

Nursing homes aren't paid to take care of the entire state and everything that goes on in the state. They have one job that they are paid to complete and if anyone dropped the ball, IT"S THEM.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2020, 02:44 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
23,567 posts, read 29,883,313 times
Reputation: 9993
Quote:
Originally Posted by HP91 View Post
On March 17th Gov Cooper outlawed mass gatherings (concerts, festivals, etc...) and said no one should visit nursing homes.

On March 23rd he closed schools for almost two months

Here is an article on March 29th regarding emergency plans for nursing homes...

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/29/coro...planned-worst/

SC has issued over twice as many citations to nursing homes for not having plans as NC, even though NC has a whole lot more nursing homes.

The governor yesterday, 15 days after he closed schools, put in place standards for nursing homes to deal with COVID...only after two big outbreaks occurred...60 cases in an Orange County facility and 30 cases in a Moore County facility. You may recall that the original COVID case in NC occurred because of the outbreak in a Washington State nursing home.

Nursing Home tenants have a 20-30% case of DYING if they get the virus. For context, no child under the age of 9 around the world has died from the virus. So Nursing homes should have been a much more focal point than schools. 80% of the deaths are over 65 years old. EIGHTY PERCENT.

The whole point of social distancing was to prevent death and try not to put our hospital system in the situation of choosing who dies. Seems the Governor was more concerned with social distancing restrictions than focusing policies on the 80% who might die. What's even worse is that people living in nursing homes are actually quarantined. Its their home, and they have gone nowhere.

Its time to start asking hard questions...why is the State so lax in citing nursing homes for their emergency plans? Why weren't restrictions placed on nursing homes from the outset?
It's not as cut and dry as nursing homes. There are also assisted living facilities and rehab facilities. They're similar but different. Is Roy Cooper supposed to consult his crystal ball for all of these places?

I think that management of these facilities needs to be responsible.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-13-2020, 11:31 AM
 
44,959 posts, read 19,355,547 times
Reputation: 10636
Quote:
Originally Posted by getatag View Post
ABSOLUTELY!!! and yes I am shouting it.

We are turning into a "nanny" state where everyone thinks the elected official and the government agency should be one step ahead of care for each and every one of us.

I'm no fan of Cooper, but he's dong an admirable job of handling the state in light of recent circumstances, but God knows the man (and his staff) can't think of everything. There MUST be some degree of personal responsibility.

Nursing homes aren't paid to take care of the entire state and everything that goes on in the state. They have one job that they are paid to complete and if anyone dropped the ball, IT"S THEM.
"We are turning into a "nanny" state"


In a pandemic......!
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2020, 08:13 AM
 
2,704 posts, read 3,846,447 times
Reputation: 1575
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/co...41996291.html?

39 Nursing Home outbreaks so far.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2020, 09:53 AM
 
2,064 posts, read 1,068,639 times
Reputation: 2105
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"We are turning into a "nanny" state"
And if thats true, then by and large the culprit behind it is the failure of the private sector to, in this case, adequately safeguard the health of their customers. If an industry or company doesn't want more regulation or oversight, they simply need to operate their business appropriately. Its not complicated. But if everything else takes a backseat to profit, then you get what you deserve.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2020, 01:13 PM
 
2,704 posts, read 3,846,447 times
Reputation: 1575
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward Teach View Post
And if thats true, then by and large the culprit behind it is the failure of the private sector to, in this case, adequately safeguard the health of their customers. If an industry or company doesn't want more regulation or oversight, they simply need to operate their business appropriately. Its not complicated. But if everything else takes a backseat to profit, then you get what you deserve.
In this case, the government has a responsibility to protect its elderly citizens.

The policies implemented last week for nursing homes should have been the FIRST thing implemented. Everyone knew the nursing home population was the most susceptible...and the death rate was MUCH higher.

While the governor focused on school children, who rarely even show symptoms and never die from the disease, he left out the nursing home population who needed HIS protection from the companies they many times have no choice to live with.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2020, 01:24 PM
 
3,345 posts, read 3,148,011 times
Reputation: 4906
Quote:
Originally Posted by HP91 View Post
In this case, the government has a responsibility to protect its elderly citizens.

The policies implemented last week for nursing homes should have been the FIRST thing implemented. Everyone knew the nursing home population was the most susceptible...and the death rate was MUCH higher.

While the governor focused on school children, who rarely even show symptoms and never die from the disease, he left out the nursing home population who needed HIS protection from the companies they many times have no choice to live with.
And how would the Governor provide that protection..... lock down all traffic in and out of nursing homes????

Why wouldn't the people that run the nursing home with the most vested interesting in taking care of their clients be the FIRST one's to realize that and handle it?
I think you are "treeing" the wrong animal.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2020, 05:02 PM
 
2,064 posts, read 1,068,639 times
Reputation: 2105
Quote:
Originally Posted by HP91 View Post
In this case, the government has a responsibility to protect its elderly citizens.
Nursing homes do too.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:



Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 PM.

© 2005-2021, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top