Gov. Cooper dropped the ball on restrictions within nursing homes (Washington: tenants, schools)

[HP91]

On March 17th Gov Cooper outlawed mass gatherings (concerts, festivals, etc...) and said no one should visit nursing homes.

On March 23rd he closed schools for almost two months

Here is an article on March 29th regarding emergency plans for nursing homes...

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/29/coro...planned-worst/

SC has issued over twice as many citations to nursing homes for not having plans as NC, even though NC has a whole lot more nursing homes.

The governor yesterday, 15 days after he closed schools, put in place standards for nursing homes to deal with COVID...only after two big outbreaks occurred...60 cases in an Orange County facility and 30 cases in a Moore County facility. You may recall that the original COVID case in NC occurred because of the outbreak in a Washington State nursing home.

Nursing Home tenants have a 20-30% case of DYING if they get the virus. For context, no child under the age of 9 around the world has died from the virus. So Nursing homes should have been a much more focal point than schools. 80% of the deaths are over 65 years old. EIGHTY PERCENT.

The whole point of social distancing was to prevent death and try not to put our hospital system in the situation of choosing who dies. Seems the Governor was more concerned with social distancing restrictions than focusing policies on the 80% who might die. What's even worse is that people living in nursing homes are actually quarantined. Its their home, and they have gone nowhere.

Its time to start asking hard questions...why is the State so lax in citing nursing homes for their emergency plans? Why weren't restrictions placed on nursing homes from the outset?

[Edward Teach]

Maybe the real question is why don't nursing homes do the right thing and protect their patients without the state forcing them to so?

[getatag]

Originally Posted by Edward Teach

Maybe the real question is why don't nursing homes do the right thing and protect their patients without the state forcing them to so?

ABSOLUTELY!!! and yes I am shouting it.

We are turning into a "nanny" state where everyone thinks the elected official and the government agency should be one step ahead of care for each and every one of us.

I'm no fan of Cooper, but he's dong an admirable job of handling the state in light of recent circumstances, but God knows the man (and his staff) can't think of everything. There MUST be some degree of personal responsibility.

Nursing homes aren't paid to take care of the entire state and everything that goes on in the state. They have one job that they are paid to complete and if anyone dropped the ball, IT"S THEM.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by HP91

On March 17th Gov Cooper outlawed mass gatherings (concerts, festivals, etc...) and said no one should visit nursing homes.

On March 23rd he closed schools for almost two months

Here is an article on March 29th regarding emergency plans for nursing homes...

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/29/coro...planned-worst/

SC has issued over twice as many citations to nursing homes for not having plans as NC, even though NC has a whole lot more nursing homes.

The governor yesterday, 15 days after he closed schools, put in place standards for nursing homes to deal with COVID...only after two big outbreaks occurred...60 cases in an Orange County facility and 30 cases in a Moore County facility. You may recall that the original COVID case in NC occurred because of the outbreak in a Washington State nursing home.

Nursing Home tenants have a 20-30% case of DYING if they get the virus. For context, no child under the age of 9 around the world has died from the virus. So Nursing homes should have been a much more focal point than schools. 80% of the deaths are over 65 years old. EIGHTY PERCENT.

The whole point of social distancing was to prevent death and try not to put our hospital system in the situation of choosing who dies. Seems the Governor was more concerned with social distancing restrictions than focusing policies on the 80% who might die. What's even worse is that people living in nursing homes are actually quarantined. Its their home, and they have gone nowhere.

Its time to start asking hard questions...why is the State so lax in citing nursing homes for their emergency plans? Why weren't restrictions placed on nursing homes from the outset?

It's not as cut and dry as nursing homes. There are also assisted living facilities and rehab facilities. They're similar but different. Is Roy Cooper supposed to consult his crystal ball for all of these places?

I think that management of these facilities needs to be responsible.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by getatag

ABSOLUTELY!!! and yes I am shouting it.

We are turning into a "nanny" state where everyone thinks the elected official and the government agency should be one step ahead of care for each and every one of us.

I'm no fan of Cooper, but he's dong an admirable job of handling the state in light of recent circumstances, but God knows the man (and his staff) can't think of everything. There MUST be some degree of personal responsibility.

Nursing homes aren't paid to take care of the entire state and everything that goes on in the state. They have one job that they are paid to complete and if anyone dropped the ball, IT"S THEM.

"We are turning into a "nanny" state"


In a pandemic......!

[HP91]

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/co...41996291.html?

39 Nursing Home outbreaks so far.

[Edward Teach]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

"We are turning into a "nanny" state"

And if thats true, then by and large the culprit behind it is the failure of the private sector to, in this case, adequately safeguard the health of their customers. If an industry or company doesn't want more regulation or oversight, they simply need to operate their business appropriately. Its not complicated. But if everything else takes a backseat to profit, then you get what you deserve.

[HP91]

Originally Posted by Edward Teach

And if thats true, then by and large the culprit behind it is the failure of the private sector to, in this case, adequately safeguard the health of their customers. If an industry or company doesn't want more regulation or oversight, they simply need to operate their business appropriately. Its not complicated. But if everything else takes a backseat to profit, then you get what you deserve.

In this case, the government has a responsibility to protect its elderly citizens.

The policies implemented last week for nursing homes should have been the FIRST thing implemented. Everyone knew the nursing home population was the most susceptible...and the death rate was MUCH higher.

While the governor focused on school children, who rarely even show symptoms and never die from the disease, he left out the nursing home population who needed HIS protection from the companies they many times have no choice to live with.

[getatag]

Originally Posted by HP91

In this case, the government has a responsibility to protect its elderly citizens.

The policies implemented last week for nursing homes should have been the FIRST thing implemented. Everyone knew the nursing home population was the most susceptible...and the death rate was MUCH higher.

While the governor focused on school children, who rarely even show symptoms and never die from the disease, he left out the nursing home population who needed HIS protection from the companies they many times have no choice to live with.

And how would the Governor provide that protection..... lock down all traffic in and out of nursing homes????

Why wouldn't the people that run the nursing home with the most vested interesting in taking care of their clients be the FIRST one's to realize that and handle it?
I think you are "treeing" the wrong animal.

[Edward Teach]

Originally Posted by HP91

In this case, the government has a responsibility to protect its elderly citizens.

Nursing homes do too.