The most perfect North Carolina town! (Carolina Beach: credit, new house, job transfer)

[Ms.Charlotte]

Crighi,
I know where you're coming from...but, remember your posts about how unfriendly the people are where you live? I think the Southerners dread being surrounded by the very same people.

I'm sure they don't want their towns and neighborhoods to become what we are trying to leave behind.

I was offended too when I first started reading the "anti-transplant"s posts, but I do get it. Throw in the huge culture difference between the North and South and how proud they are of their heritage and it's got to be a nightmare for them. Having said that, unfortunately, the changes are inevitable-as they were in my part of NJ .

[U.S.Citizen]

Originally Posted by jerseymom

Crighi,
I know where you're coming from...but, remember your posts about how unfriendly the people are where you live? I think the Southerners dread being surrounded by the very same people.

I'm sure they don't want their towns and neighborhoods to become what we are trying to leave behind.

I was offended too when I first started reading the "anti-transplant"s posts, but I do get it. Throw in the huge culture difference between the North and South and how proud they are of their heritage and it's got to be a nightmare for them. Having said that, unfortunately, the changes are inevitable-as they were in my part of NJ .

Well said "jerseymom" Thankyou.

[NCKatie]

Originally Posted by crighi

Just curious as to the reason you folks are in this forum if you have nothing to offer people trying to better their lives. We cannot help where we were born, but when we are old enough to move away, it would be nice for people to offer some advise. What are you so afraid of? If more people move to your area, it will be an asset not a detriment. Im starting to think people in Nc are not the type I would want for my neighbor. Not a friendly bunch. I met some great local people while visiting Corolla, apparetly that was'nt you, thankfully.

crighi, I understand we come across this way but North Carolinians aren't the only southerners expressing this in this forum. I took the time a couple of days ago to read up on all the southern states threads and the same sentiment is prevelant throughout all of them. i.e. Southerners are expressing the same reasons as here - rudeness, not respecting our culture, making fun of our accents, buying up all the property etcetra, etcetra...

I found it interesting reading, jerseymom is correct it's been a nightmare. Besides Atlanta and most of Florida which has not been considered southern for many, many years, this is fairly new to us and we are having growing pangs.

One on one we are a friendly bunch, we are just trying to scramble and protect what has been dear to us.

I do not blame you for wanting a better more affordable place to live. Especially if you want to escape the rudeness of so many northerners that we have come in contact with down here. Collectively, southerners feel like there is an invasion. An invasion from those who have made sport out of redeculing us. We aren't blind, stupid or deaf. We are aware how most of the country views us.

So come on down, we can make room, and I hope you love it here. Maybe the rumors have been dispelled and finally other people from other regions have put their toe in southern waters and learned we aren't so bad after all.

[mm34b]

Here's my personal advice for those folks considering relocation to NC.

Avoid clustering if at all possible. The state is quite large by east coast standards. There's much more to NC than just the Raleigh and Charlotte metropolitan areas. Many do not care for the upheaval caused by high density living. We like our space.

Avoid complaining about the lack of county and local government services compared to your former state. No one wants heavy taxation to pay for non-essential services that the majority of residents will rarely use, if ever. We would rather provide services to those truly in need through our local church, charity, civic, social groups, and other concerned local residents instead of another unsupervised government mandate. This cuts down on the abuse by those few just looking for a free ride at taxpayers expense.

Avoid ridiculing Southern history, culture and local customs. Your lifestyle may be just as strange to us as ours is to you. Until one has lived here for many years, you're considered a guest. I'm sure as a guest in someone's home, you wouldn't start re-arranging the furniture to your personal tastes.

The keyword here is assimilation. Do you want to be known as a new North Carolinian or just another New Yorker living in North Carolina?

[NYer]

Originally Posted by mm34b

Here's my personal advice for those folks considering relocation to NC.

Avoid clustering if at all possible. The state is quite large by east coast standards. There's much more to NC than just the Raleigh and Charlotte metropolitan areas. Many do not care for the upheaval caused by high density living. We like our space.

Avoid complaining about the lack of county and local government services compared to your former state. No one wants heavy taxation to pay for non-essential services that the majority of residents will rarely use, if ever. We would rather provide services to those truly in need through our local church, charity, civic, social groups, and other concerned local residents instead of another unsupervised government mandate. This cuts down on the abuse by those few just looking for a free ride at taxpayers expense.

Avoid ridiculing Southern history, culture and local customs. Your lifestyle may be just as strange to us as ours is to you. Until one has lived here for many years, you're considered a guest. I'm sure as a guest in someone's home, you wouldn't start re-arranging the furniture to your personal tastes.

The keyword here is assimilation. Do you want to be known as a new North Carolinian or just another New Yorker living in North Carolina?

1. I know we are forced to cluster b/c of where my husband will be working. It is the rare & lucky person who can find work in a small town. I wish!

2. We are RUNNING from all those government services that we do not use but must pay for.

3. I think if you knew what we were taught about the civil war in the north you would understand the attitude. To show the southern side is seen as sympathising with pro-slavery people. Only in college did I see both sides.

Maybe Northerners should see Cold Mountain before coming, just to start to understand the suffering that went on in the South during that time.

Also I think we should all differentiate between what I see as 2 kinds of people relocating:
1. High income executives who relocate from faceless suburbia to faceless suburbia every 5 years or so, with no ties to anyone outside their nuclear family. Sort of like American tourists who go to Paris & eat at McDonalds!

2. People from all income brackets who are choosing to move south, who are researching, asking questions, trying to learn, trying to figure out how to fit in. Big difference.

[mm34b]

Originally Posted by NYer

1. I know we are forced to cluster b/c of where my husband will be working. It is the rare & lucky person who can find work in a small town. I wish!

2. We are RUNNING from all those government services that we do not use but must pay for.

3. I think if you knew what we were taught about the civil war in the north you would understand the attitude. To show the southern side is seen as sympathising with pro-slavery people. Only in college did I see both sides.

Maybe Northerners should see Cold Mountain before coming, just to start to understand the suffering that went on in the South during that time.

Also I think we should all differentiate between what I see as 2 kinds of people relocating:
1. High income executives who relocate from faceless suburbia to faceless suburbia every 5 years or so, with no ties to anyone outside their nuclear family. Sort of like American tourists who go to Paris & eat at McDonalds!

2. People from all income brackets who are choosing to move south, who are researching, asking questions, trying to learn, trying to figure out how to fit in. Big difference.

I'd add a third group, retirees. Lots of them in NC that were not from here until they retired. Their main priorities are climate, crime, taxes, cost-of-living and available healthcare facilities. Jobs, schools and child related services are unimportant to them, but the highest concern to many on this forum.

[a1m1700]

Sometimes you can take the person out of new York but you can't take the New York out of the person. I think that's the problem with some of those folks. I was born and raised in NY lived there for 26 years of my life. I've lived in Phx for 18 years and let me tell you, the New Yorkers come here and complain too about how horrible Phx is and how great NY is. I say why are they here?? Go home. That irritates me, I know how you sotherners feel.

[Mountain Man]

Good post mm34b and a1m1700 . North Carolina has some of the friendliest people in the country . I have stopped many times and helped out people that are broke down or picked up people walkin and give them a ride. I even let some lost campers stay at my house. But I aint gonna put up with people running down my neighbors because they have an accent or live in a shack in the mountains.
Maybe us Carolinians speak normal and everyone else has the accent

[silverwing]

Originally Posted by Mountain Man

Good post mm34b and a1m1700 . North Carolina has some of the friendliest people in the country . I have stopped many times and helped out people that are broke down or picked up people walkin and give them a ride. I even let some lost campers stay at my house. But I aint gonna put up with people running down my neighbors because they have an accent or live in a shack in the mountains.

:::mutters::: make note to self: next riding trip, make sure one becomes lost in MM's part of the state

[I'minformed2]

Also I think we should all differentiate between what I see as 2 kinds of people relocating:
1. High income executives who relocate from faceless suburbia to faceless suburbia every 5 years or so, with no ties to anyone outside their nuclear family. Sort of like American tourists who go to Paris & eat at McDonalds!

Not being here yet you probably wouldn't have realized this yet.... those are the majority of transplants. You understandably probably think that the majority of people moving here are friendly middle class folks looking to make a better life for their family, because that is the majority of people on this site. But that's not the case. The Rat Race is alive and THRIVING in this area. Go to any subdivision like Lochmere, Wakefield Plantatoin, Preston, parts of Briar Creek and numerous others and you will be able to see that. Raleigh actually has one of the highest per capita populations of Millionares...I believe only Seattle, San Francisco, and Boston are ahead of it. That is the reason for the area's booming economy, those high income executives.