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Old 04-17-2009, 05:50 PM
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Great post Ani, I tried to give you an "at-a-girl" but I have to spread it around.
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I have a feeling NC will eventually see their population increase level off. Its a nice state, but it does seem to collect so many different types of taxes. The housing is not really all that cheap any longer, so really what is the attraction? Is it just because its cheaper over all than NJ or NY or Fla? If so really how long is that going to last? The method a state chooses to tax its citizens is a major consideration when choosing where one lives so Im curious? I am curious why does NC have so many taxes for this that and everything?
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I have a feeling NC will eventually see their population increase level off. Its a nice state, but it does seem to collect so many different types of taxes. The housing is not really all that cheap any longer, so really what is the attraction? Is it just because its cheaper over all than NJ or NY or Fla? If so really how long is that going to last? The method a state chooses to tax its citizens is a major consideration when choosing where one lives so Im curious? I am curious why does NC have so many taxes for this that and everything?
Well - the DEMS in the eastern part of this state - wh/ usually holds the most voting power in the General Assembly - have used taxation as a method to raise money for projects in the eastern part of the state. With Charlotte being the revenue center for the state, the more taxation, the bigger the budget - w/ most of the spoils going to the eastern part of the state.

That may sound over simplistic, but it is how things have worked here for two hundred years, LOL. The eastern part of the state used to have more wealth, b/c of tobacco. Now, Charlotte is the biggest revenue center for the state and the eastern part of the state has less population than the western . . . so you raise taxes and this means the areas w/ the most population and highest per capita income are putting more into the coffers. But the money is unevenly returned back to municipalities . . . wh/ is why Charlotte sits w/ unfinished road projects and burgs in the eastern part of the state have freeways. It is nuts! The only way to overcome this is to have a strong 2 party system here . . . but it seems a lot of newcomers are voting straight DEM tickets . . . so . . . until the public figures it out, this is just the way it is.

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I agree, coming from California, when my husband got stationed here we're both making less money and the state taxes, food tax, vehicle tax, subdivision taxes ( which where we live in Peletier off cape carteret is considered a subdivision but they're double wide trailers ha ha!) It's just ridiculous we are ready to go back to California. We made more money and saved alot more. Here its just ridiculous how they rent all the properties and just rape your BAH because the real estate companies know military people are here and that's just wrong! They take all of your BAH and your're stuck with nothing. NC is NOT a favorite among military personnel.
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Roads? Really? Because the new tire I just had to buy would disagree with that statement. Now, maybe it's because I live in Charlotte and we'd rather construct a subsidized "look at us!" light rail that goes a whole two directions rather than keep our roads smooth and pothole free, but I'm not seeing these great smooth roads other people talk about. In fact, NC has some of the worst roads I've ever driven on. Now, given the fact that I drive a sports sedan outfitted with stiff sidewalled sticky low profile tires, I might feel more of the cracks and bumps than others. So yeah. In this North Carolina resident's opinion (and I've been practically ALL over our great state) I'm going to need a more concrete, reasonable reason why we must live under such crappy tax conditions when compared to our neighbors. Roads and infrastructure. Give me a break
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I agree, coming from California, when my husband got stationed here we're both making less money and the state taxes, food tax, vehicle tax, subdivision taxes ( which where we live in Peletier off cape carteret is considered a subdivision but they're double wide trailers ha ha!) It's just ridiculous we are ready to go back to California. We made more money and saved alot more. Here its just ridiculous how they rent all the properties and just rape your BAH because the real estate companies know military people are here and that's just wrong! They take all of your BAH and your're stuck with nothing. NC is NOT a favorite among military personnel.

Funny, when I was in Quantico, I knew plenty who couldn't wait to get back to NC. I also know alot of people who decided to stay in NC after getting out of the military. Staying in Cape Carteret, I'm assuming you're stationed at Lejeune. Lejeune BAH, isn't enough to stay in Carteret County. Cherry Point gets theirr BAH rate based off Carteret (even though it's in Craven) and it's the third highest in the state. Still, NC is way cheaper than N. VA.
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As someone stated in an earlier post, you have to look at road maintenance and who is responsible for it. The state picks up the tab on many of our roads (rather than the municipalities in which the roads are located).

And for anyone who thinks the roads are horrible here . . . how many states have you driven in? I think more roads are needed (and expansion of existing roads is certainly needed) but as far as maintenance, I have run into (literally) some really bad highways in many other states.

Our Gov is getting ready to raise taxes again, assuming she can convince the General Assembly to go along with it. This time, it looks like another sales tax.
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July 12, 2009
A Lesson in Stupid Tax Policy

By Daniel Salvaterra


North Carolina is a state with a huge budget deficit. It is one of the worst state deficits in the nation at $4.6 billion or 21% of the general fund budget for fiscal year 2010. In addition, North Carolina has the 5th worst unemployment rate in the country at 11.1%, and just missed the top 10 lists of the worst states in the country for business (39th here, and 38th here).


So how has the Tar Heel State proposed it solve its budget crisis and spur economic growth? Not by cutting spending of course! Governor Beverly Perdue has proposed $1.5 billion in tax increases, much of which will come from taxing online retail sales from companies that have no physical presence in the state.


The so-called "Amazon Tax" has been sparking intrigue from a number of states facing budget problems since being passed by New York in 2008. Since then, California, Hawaii, and North Carolina have all pushed forward similar taxes in an attempt to raise revenue to offset each state's irresponsible spending habits. The tax attempts to get around the interstate commerce clause in the Constitution that carries the implication of a "physical presence" standard. Essentially, a company must have a physical presence of operation in the state in order for the state to be able to charge the company a sales tax. There is currently a bill before Congress that would make law a uniform physical presence standard.


The desperation of states like New York, California, and North Carolina to raise tax revenue so they can fund entitlement programs has led them to target affiliate marketers for online retailers like Amazon and Overstock.com. Law makers are saying that affiliates who reside in their state represent the physical presence needed to be able to tax online retailers the affiliates work with even though the affiliate is not owned by or an employee of the company they refer sales to.


Affiliate marketing companies come in all shapes and sizes, but for the most part they are small businesses that refer sales or leads to online retailers in return for some kind of commission or bounty. Affiliate marketers use both online and offline strategies to refer consumers to online retailers' websites either through a Web link, a special URL, or a specific code that identifies to the retailer that the sale came from a specific affiliate. While there are many forms of affiliate marketing business models, the one thing they all share in common is that they can operate from anywhere in the world. That is until now.


With the introduction of the Amazon Tax, affiliate marketers in New York and perhaps soon in California, Hawaii, and North Carolina are being terminated from or not allowed into affiliate programs of companies like Amazon.com who would rather take a pass on sales generated by affiliates than collect taxes for states were they do not reside. The actions taken by companies like Amazon have led to vetoes of such bills in California and Hawaii for the time being, while North Carolina persists.


Back in North Carolina, public schools account for $8 billion or 37% of their $21 billion budget. If this one expenditure were reduced by 6.8% they would have their $1.5billion to spend on other priorities. The governor, however, has said that North Carolina "cannot afford to gut education" like this despite proposing a 4.9% reduction in public school spending herself. The necessary cut is only 1.9% more than her proposal in this year's budget.


So instead of angering the education lobby that helped her get elected, Governor Perdue is pursuing more taxes that will only cause further damage to North Carolina's suffering economy. Amazon has already put affiliates on notice that they will be terminated once the law is enacted. This means that not only will North Carolina once again be unable to collect the sales tax from Amazon, but also now they won't even be able to collect the income taxes from affiliates who profited from their relationship with Amazon in the past. That is a net loss in tax revenue resulting from a bill that was supposed to increase taxes by $1.5billion. In short it is a recipe for disaster.


The one benefit the Amazon Tax has brought about is a wonderful teachable moment on stupid tax policy. Conservatives have espoused for decades that raising taxes actually reduces revenue coming into a government, and the example of the Amazon Tax illustrates that point perfectly. States with serious economic problems right now should not be looking for more tax opportunities to artificially sustain bad spending habits. Instead they should take this time to prioritize their expenditures and make cuts where necessary.


The example of North Carolina can be very useful as a guide on what should not be done to recover from economic distress, and shows how everyone loses when the tax burden becomes too high. Amazon loses sales, affiliate marketers lose a source of income, and the state loses tax revenue.


Dan Salvaterra is a contributing editor at The Freedom Medium and is active in conservative politics.
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Great article. I'll take a Governor that cheats on his wife over a Governor that raises my taxes even more, all while talking out of both sides of her mouth. Hurry up, moving truck!
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