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Old 06-26-2006, 01:37 PM
 
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Still allowed to smoke here in Pittsburgh - no ban yet - there is one in Georgia (St Marys area) . . . . wish they did have a ban here in the Burgh
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:48 PM
 
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It is ironic, even though I smoke on occasion, we don't smoke in our house (because it would make it stink and turn everything yellow), and I really am quite glad to have the smoking ban here. I like eating and going out for a drink and not coming home smelling like an ashtray.

That being said I've grown up around smokers my entire life and no I'm not going to come down there and demand any changes, I'm just going to live with it the way it is.
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Ummm...I'm gonna disagree on the smoking thing in restaurants. I don't know the exact NC law but I have a friend that owns a restaurant. They were told IF they had a smoking section that it would have to be far from the non smoking and have some type of ventilation. They were told if they don't get the ventilation, that they could not have the smoking section and it would just have to be a non smoking restaurant. I'm not a smoker and I find plenty of restaurants that don't allow smoking at all. Hooray! Vicki
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:16 PM
 
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In case anyone out there happens to be looking for a non-smoking restaurant in the Charlotte/Meck area...check out the following website:

mecklenburg.digitalhealthdepartment.com/smokefree.cfm
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:17 AM
 
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... I don't know the exact NC law but I have a friend that owns a restaurant. They were told IF they had a smoking section that it would have to be far from the non smoking and have some type of ventilation. They were told if they don't get the ventilation, that they could not have the smoking section and it would just have to be a non smoking restaurant.
Yeah, I think there was a small compromise law done to have a ventilation requirement. It's a pretty weak and ill-enforced one though. I've seen plenty of restaurants in NC where the smoking section's "ventilation" was an air filter machine in the ceiling no bigger than my computer screen. It's pretty pathetic.

And yes...fortunately more and more restaurateurs are just going smoke-free. Seems easier that way.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:04 PM
 
Location: beautiful NC mountains!
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I don't want to harp on this issue but...
What would you say was a rough percentage of businesses Not restaurant, bars, etc. that allow workers to smoke in the office. My Husband is a corporate controller and this would be a deal breaker for him. He couldn't work in an environment where smoking was allowed inside an office building.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:48 PM
 
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I don't want to harp on this issue but...
What would you say was a rough percentage of businesses Not restaurant, bars, etc. that allow workers to smoke in the office. My Husband is a corporate controller and this would be a deal breaker for him. He couldn't work in an environment where smoking was allowed inside an office building.

I would say it's very very rare. Having smoky offices just wouldn't be good for business, really. You might run into an occasional one that has a "smoking lounge" somewhere in the building....but for the most part, especially in the urbanized areas, it's left outdoors.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:54 PM
 
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Smoking in offices... I remember when my mom used to be able to do that. Years and years ago. To me seems like more of a fire hazard than anything else. I mean I just look at my desk and all of the papers... I have trouble enough not spilling my coffee.

Up here, they are banning smoking outside though. Most companies won't even let you sit in your own darn car and smoke if it is on thier property (or at least the property they lease because no one up here owns property).

I didn't mean to make it sound like all of the places down there allow smoking, for I'm not from there and don't know as much as the locals would. I was only saying that it felt strange when we went to get Sunday breakfast at Bob Evans that they asked smoking or non. Every restaurant we went to asked and we kept saying "oh yeah we forgot you can smoke down here".
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Old 06-27-2006, 05:33 PM
 
Location: beautiful NC mountains!
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Thank you everyone. I currently live in Fl although I spent alot of my childhood in Black Mountain and went to college at UNCA. I have always dreamed of the day I could move back. It has finally arrived! My Husband is ready, my kids are ready. All we are waiting on is my husband to graduated with his MBA. Then we are leaving hurricanes and overgrowth behind.

But we have had a smoking ban in effect for quite some time in Fl. I had forgotten how bad it can be in a restaurant. That is avoidable though. Your work environment is not.
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:55 PM
 
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Default Cancer Grows in NC

Can I climb up on my Salt box for a few?

I have lived in North Carolina now for 37 years of 48 years and I love this state but believe me, the smoking issue is no picnic here. I would like to see smoking banned in all public places including parking lots! Short of that I would like to see a sign (decal) required at the entrance of all businesses that allows smoking anywhere on the premises. This would be similar to the surgeon generalís warning labels now required on tobacco products stating the second hand smoke statement. I want to know before I decide to enter the building. Even better, I would also require it on all advertising for the business. Donít waist my time advertising your business to me if it is a health risk for me to enter it.

I am both frustrated and embarrassed. Federal, State and local governments have mandated controlled of other industries with similar or even much less health impact issues. One case in point is the Federal Highway Beatification Act and local ordinances that limited outdoor advertising displays on our streets and highways. My issue is not why it was done but how the tobacco issue has been handled in comparison. The sign issue was done with little cost to the taxpayer and was more of a cosmetic issue, indicated by the name, than a health risk. Our governments very skillfully supported laws to phase out the billboards and reduce size and placement of on premise signs, virtually seizing of private property without compensation. This was achieved by using an amortization plan. Brilliant! Why did we not do that to the tobacco industry? We are paying the farmers NOT to grow tobacco. Thatís a start but why should we? We did not pay the billboard companies NOT to paint there signs anymore. We did not even pay them for their assets the laws outlawed. The same should have been done with tobacco, they all knew it was coming, how is this any different? Also, I am embarrassed by the way North Carolina initially used the Tobacco company settlement money to promote tobacco products usage world wide. Did we miss the point of the lawsuit and settlement, I think so!

Why am I frustrated? I suffer from a sever allergic reaction to one or more of the chemicals the tobacco industry puts in cigarettes. I use to think it was the tobacco but second hand smoke from cigars and pipe tobacco do not bother me at all and certain brands of cigarettes are worse for me than others. Marlboro lights are the worst for me followed by Marlboro regulars. I can tell you if someone is smoking these brands in a shopping center parking lot or in traffic anywhere upwind from me. I can tell you if the store employee smoked one on there last outside smoke break. May times from twenty feet away in the store. This is not an exaggeration. Exposure to this second hand smoke or more accurately the evaporated chemical(s) results in instant nasal pain, headaches, tightness and pain in my chest and airways followed by sever sinus bleeding for days and sometimes weeks. Many times a full sinus infection sets in afterwards. I have gone to medical doctors for relief to find little if any assistance. They prescribe Flow-naze, or something like that, which does not stop the bleeding from happening and they say to avoid cigarette smoke is best and that I am lucky my body reacts this way to such a health risk. The allergist specialist said he can not tell me what chemical in the cigarettes I am allergic to because to expose me to these know cancer causing chemicals would be a case for malpractice. I have little if any social life due to the disabling condition. Most work and social groups have members that smoke and they always want to light up around me. Even when I explain to them they are polite but can only refrain for about ten minutes until the addiction wipes out there will to be considerate and they light up anyway. I spend all on my time with the group trying to stay away from the smoke which is always a failed effort. Restaurants that use the ventilation systems are a complete and absolute joke for me. Maybe since it is the evaporated chemicals that I need filtered and there system is only filtering the larger tobacco particles. That would explain the extreme sensitivity I have at such great distances and why there filters are useless. A total ban might just give me a life again.

Note: I have been under the care of a Homeopathic Doctor with some good results but a far cry from complete relief.

Smoke free is the way to be!
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