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Old 04-07-2010, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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... thanks, jskin - so, if I don't "qualify" (I put that in quotes because you would think, qualifying for something would be a good thing) for extensions in the new year, what was left from my initial benefit yr pulls forward at that same rate of $494! With that said, why would I want to "qualify" for the new year w/extensions? Why would I want to "qualify" for new year benefits at all??? By not qualifying for new yr benefits, my initial yr benefits carry over at the higher rate (tier 2 at $494) with no waiting week. Am I completely wrong, or is this thing ass backwards, or what?!??!
That's just the way the system works. If you CAN qualify for regular UI, you MUST draw that, even if currently in extensions. The regular UI money is to be paid BEFORE any extension money. So because your benefit year ended and you had enough wages to qualify for more regular UI, legislation won't allow anything else.

I have had a claim I've been working on for two days to try and figure out why it stopped MIDSTREAM in his Tier 2 extension about two weeks ago...no warnings, no issues, no nothing. Just stopped. He didn't qualify for regular UI when this benefit year was opened, so they transferred his unused extension money to his new benefit year. His benefit year doesn't end until November. A colleague and I both tried transactions on it and nothing took. Finally referred it to my regional claims specialist who pointed out that on 3/22/10 his last employer reported 4Q2009 wages for him. By doing so that new quarter of wages, coupled with the 3Q2009 wages which were already there, meant that he is now eligible for regular UI in this benefit year. Boom. Claim stopped. He MUST switch to regular UI now even though his benefit year doesn't end for another 7 months. So I did the transaction today to initiate the regular UI, at the rate of $30 per week lower. He's wasn't thrilled, but that's how the system works. If someone will qualify for regular UI, that must always pay before any extension. In his case, he had never received regular UI in this benefit year, so now that he qualifies for it, he's gotta go back and get that before continuing on with extensions.
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Old 04-07-2010, 05:38 PM
 
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That's just the way the system works. If you CAN qualify for regular UI, you MUST draw that, even if currently in extensions. The regular UI money is to be paid BEFORE any extension money. So because your benefit year ended and you had enough wages to qualify for more regular UI, legislation won't allow anything else.

I have had a claim I've been working on for two days to try and figure out why it stopped MIDSTREAM in his Tier 2 extension about two weeks ago...no warnings, no issues, no nothing. Just stopped. He didn't qualify for regular UI when this benefit year was opened, so they transferred his unused extension money to his new benefit year. His benefit year doesn't end until November. A colleague and I both tried transactions on it and nothing took. Finally referred it to my regional claims specialist who pointed out that on 3/22/10 his last employer reported 4Q2009 wages for him. By doing so that new quarter of wages, coupled with the 3Q2009 wages which were already there, meant that he is now eligible for regular UI in this benefit year. Boom. Claim stopped. He MUST switch to regular UI now even though his benefit year doesn't end for another 7 months. So I did the transaction today to initiate the regular UI, at the rate of $30 per week lower. He's wasn't thrilled, but that's how the system works. If someone will qualify for regular UI, that must always pay before any extension. In his case, he had never received regular UI in this benefit year, so now that he qualifies for it, he's gotta go back and get that before continuing on with extensions.
thanks, jdljr and jskin - your knowledge, patience and ability to break it down in terms easy to comprehend (even for me!! - lol) are sooooo appreciated!!! god bless you "guys".
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:21 AM
 
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How long does it take to get back into the system after another extension is passed? ( hopefully April 12th or very soon thereafter ) Since the deadlines have now lapsed, will it take days, weeks ( ! ) to get people that did not make the extension deadlines, assuming they qualify for say Teir one after reg ui runs out, back up and receiving benefits? Thanks!
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:22 AM
 
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I filed online, and yea, the form that asked the reasons and such of why I was let go was new, I do not remember seeing that last time.

I checked my status online this morning, and it looks good! Shows a new benefit year, with a slightly adjusted rate amount, and no issues, so I think I am good, and I think you're right about the program recognizing the past adjudication.

I have a couple of really good prospects for jobs, and I HOPE I can finally get off of UI, this past year has really been a humbling experience for me, I've never, ever had this much trouble getting a job.

Thanks for the excellent reply JDLJR!

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Did you file online or on the phone? If so, then you need to contact someone at ESC to "4/98" (erase) the discharge issue from your new claim. It does no good to suggest it now, but you should have visited the office to file in person in your circumstance. When an issue has been previously adjudicated, as yours had, when a new benefit year is started the claim is filed as "lack of work" in the new benefit year if it's the same last employer. That way the issue isn't having to be addressed again when it was already taken care of.

I'm not entirely sure, but you may get lucky and the system will recognize the past adjudication and just ignore the issue on the new claim. But I'm not sure. The ability for claimants to complete their own fact findings (statement of separation for quits and fires) online is brand new as of 3/25. So I'm not sure how the program has been written and what the system is to do in this situation. I know if you would have come into MY office, we would have just filed your claim as a "lack of work" since the issue had been previously taken care of in the prior benefit year. No muss, no fuss.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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Hi all - Could someone please very quickly restate the 1.5 rule as it has to do with new extensions related to a new benefit yr claim? And also, what is the current length of the tier 2, tier 3, and tier 4 extensions - I mean, how long can you receive pymnts under those tiers if those unused EUC's pull forward from your initial benefit yr? Thanks as always!
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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Hi all - Could someone please very quickly restate the 1.5 rule as it has to do with new extensions related to a new benefit yr claim? And also, what is the current length of the tier 2, tier 3, and tier 4 extensions - I mean, how long can you receive pymnts under those tiers if those unused EUC's pull forward from your initial benefit yr? Thanks as always!
sorry, again - I found the info about the 1.5 rule
but if I drew 26 wks of regular UI, how many wks of tier 1,2,and 3 are eligible to be pulled forward once I exhaust my 13 wks of new regular UI from my new benefit yr? And, am I not eligible for the EB?
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:26 AM
 
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sorry, again - I found the info about the 1.5 rule
but if I drew 26 wks of regular UI, how many wks of tier 1,2,and 3 are eligible to be pulled forward once I exhaust my 13 wks of new regular UI from my new benefit yr? And, am I not eligible for the EB?
Tier 1 is 80% or 20.8 weeks
Tier 2 is 50% or 13 weeks (Ithink this was increased ot 14 weeks)
Tier 3 is 50% or 13 weeks
Tier 4 is 23% or approx. 6 weeks

Eb does not pull forward. In other words you would have to qualify or and exhaust all available extensions in the new year to get eb.

I think you said that you had already gtten 5 weeks of tier 2 so youd have 8 or 9 left and then tier 3 and 4.
Remember though that all of this is contingent on Congress passing an extension. Currently all euc benefits expired on 4/5/10. This means tht you can only draw whatever tier you are currently on until and extension is passed. Everyone believes this will happen. No one knows when.

When they missed the deadline last time it took three weeks for them to get me back into the system and payment to take place. They did, however, pay me all three weeks at one time.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:18 PM
 
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Default Three weeks!

Are you saying it took three weeks to get back to receiving benefits? Did you move between tiers or were you a newbie, like me? I am exhausting my regular UI on April 10 ( of all the luck ). Assuming the current discussions in congress move forward on April 12th and they approve a deadline extension, is the lag time the same for all benefits or are some tier transitions treated differently? I keep getting, " Keep filing like everything is the same" from the NCESC - It certainly won't be the same after April 10th when I have no more income to live on. I know it is not their fault - I just don't know what will happen to me and to many others like me. I can't wait for a letter regarding my 'possible' benefit continuation before I get evicted.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:31 PM
 
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My regular UI second benefit year ran out 2/28 which was the original deadlinefor all extensions to end. I did not qualify for extensions in the new year and had to Pull forward from the first year. I went through all kinds of crazy stuff over the next three weeks. First my file said benefits exhausted and I coundn't file. The my status said unknown and I was able to file but wasn't getting paid. After a dozen phone calls and 3 weeks I finally got paid one lump sum. Since then all has been fine. I NEVER got a letter at all. It will all work out but in the meantime prepare as much as possible for a lull if congress doesnt act by 4/10. Maybe it will go better for you.
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:04 PM
 
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My regular UI second benefit year ran out 2/28 which was the original deadlinefor all extensions to end. I did not qualify for extensions in the new year and had to Pull forward from the first year. I went through all kinds of crazy stuff over the next three weeks. First my file said benefits exhausted and I coundn't file. The my status said unknown and I was able to file but wasn't getting paid. After a dozen phone calls and 3 weeks I finally got paid one lump sum. Since then all has been fine. I NEVER got a letter at all. It will all work out but in the meantime prepare as much as possible for a lull if congress doesnt act by 4/10. Maybe it will go better for you.
Hi there jskin!
Have you heard any news on any movement with Congress yet?
I've been reading an watching and I haven't heard anything definate.
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