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Old 04-14-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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Because your other benefit year is still in existence, all that really needed to be done was either an A1 or B1 NIE transaction to get the claim kicked into Tier 2...
Oh my god, that is so helpful. The whole post, in fact, but I figured it'd be too long to quote the whole thing.

I've always done everything online (there's this really rude lady at my local office), but being that I'm getting some representatives through the 888 number that don't want to help (or so it seems), would you recommend going into the office and trying to explain this out? It seems a little technical, and I'd be afraid that they might not understand.

I'm in Eastern NC (ECU) if that helps.

Again, thanks!
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Boone, NC
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Oh my god, that is so helpful. The whole post, in fact, but I figured it'd be too long to quote the whole thing.

I've always done everything online (there's this really rude lady at my local office), but being that I'm getting some representatives through the 888 number that don't want to help (or so it seems), would you recommend going into the office and trying to explain this out? It seems a little technical, and I'd be afraid that they might not understand.

I'm in Eastern NC (ECU) if that helps.

Again, thanks!
I DEFINITELY would go into a local office. For one, you can (maybe) have them show you exactly what the problem is. I do that with my clients, spin the screen around so they can see while I'm explaining to them. Also, I think, having you right there in front of them would hopefully prevent them from 1) being rude to you and, 2) just brushing you off like you don't know what you're talking about.

An erroneous benefit year CAN be withdrawn, that's what needs to be done with the new one you erroneously created yourself online. THEN your (now) old benefit year will return to being your current benefit year and they just need to get the Tier 1 transitioned to Tier 2 since you DID meet the April 3rd phase out date to transition from one tier to the next.

Now...that's not to say that there won't be a delay transitioning from Tier 1 to Tier 2. Normally there wouldn't be, but the phase out date has caused some problems in the system. There are some issues happening that Raleigh is working on. I have two claims right now that I can't get to go from Tier 3 to the "14th week". Not sure if there are other issues with transitioning from one tier of EUC to the next, but remember, too, that IF you qualify for EB, they can do a B1 NIE transaction to get EB onto your claim for you to draw until the EUC date gets extended and our system updated.

These transactions sometimes depend on what the claim looks like, of course. I can't see yours, or I would be able to better evaluate. And from what I know is happening with other claims and from reading your original post, there may be other issues or constraints on your claim that I am unaware of - weekly certification error codes for example - sometimes, sadly to say, it's trial and error to see what will work.
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:56 PM
 
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Thanks..thought I was losing it!

As to the 2nd paragraph of your answer----I called my local office today & was told there is a programming problem (sound familiar?) The rep said she would print it off & take back to her office to see if there had been any email updates regarding a fix. She said they are doing "runs" to try to correct the glitch a & mentioned something about Friday (by this time my mind had drifted toward wondering how in the heck I am going to feed my family til then, so I may have missed a detail or 2, but the essence was, it wasn't going to be fixed soon)

The rep I spoke to suggested I contact the Gov's office, Senators, reps, etc. I'll pass that along here, too.

Let us know of any updates you hear, please! Thank you, as always, jdljr!
Thanks for posting this Deerest!
I plan on making some contacts in the morning!
Hope all is going well for you
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:44 PM
 
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I DEFINITELY would go into a local office. For one, you can (maybe) have them show you exactly what the problem is. I do that with my clients, spin the screen around so they can see while I'm explaining to them. Also, I think, having you right there in front of them would hopefully prevent them from 1) being rude to you and, 2) just brushing you off like you don't know what you're talking about.

An erroneous benefit year CAN be withdrawn, that's what needs to be done with the new one you erroneously created yourself online. THEN your (now) old benefit year will return to being your current benefit year and they just need to get the Tier 1 transitioned to Tier 2 since you DID meet the April 3rd phase out date to transition from one tier to the next.

Now...that's not to say that there won't be a delay transitioning from Tier 1 to Tier 2. Normally there wouldn't be, but the phase out date has caused some problems in the system. There are some issues happening that Raleigh is working on. I have two claims right now that I can't get to go from Tier 3 to the "14th week". Not sure if there are other issues with transitioning from one tier of EUC to the next, but remember, too, that IF you qualify for EB, they can do a B1 NIE transaction to get EB onto your claim for you to draw until the EUC date gets extended and our system updated.

These transactions sometimes depend on what the claim looks like, of course. I can't see yours, or I would be able to better evaluate. And from what I know is happening with other claims and from reading your original post, there may be other issues or constraints on your claim that I am unaware of - weekly certification error codes for example - sometimes, sadly to say, it's trial and error to see what will work.
jdljr---I'm curious....I was getting EB when my first claim year expired. I was eligible for a new yr. and 13 wks of regular UE, but no extensions. They did a pull forward, and I just finished Tier 3, awaiting week #14 of Tier 2 (til they get the programming issue straight). So, since I did not exhaust all EB, can they pull anything forward until the glitch is fixed? Or am I grasping at straws?
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Boone, NC
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jdljr---I'm curious....I was getting EB when my first claim year expired. I was eligible for a new yr. and 13 wks of regular UE, but no extensions. They did a pull forward, and I just finished Tier 3, awaiting week #14 of Tier 2 (til they get the programming issue straight). So, since I did not exhaust all EB, can they pull anything forward until the glitch is fixed? Or am I grasping at straws?
No, unfortunately not. If you received regular UI in your 2nd benefit year and did not qualify for new extensions, they pull forward EUC, but not EB.
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:00 PM
 
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No, unfortunately not. If you received regular UI in your 2nd benefit year and did not qualify for new extensions, they pull forward EUC, but not EB.

Thanks a bunch...never hurts to ask! Strange, though, that if there is unused EB that it wouldn't pull forward, too. I guess it's b/c it is state funded (I'm guessing).

Again, I cannot thank you enough for your diligent and faithful visits to this thread to keep us connected. When you're unemployed for any length of time, you really start feeling isolated and lost. Your mere presence here and willingness to help us gives us a measure of comfort. As bad as our situation is, you at least give us a source of information that helps to alleviate some of the frustration that comes along with not being able to secure a job. I'm sure I speak for many, and I am absolutely confident that your good deeds here will in some way, at some time, serve to return many blessings in your life.
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Old 04-15-2010, 07:14 AM
 
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[quote=deerest;13742575]Hey there, fellow unemployed!

I did something today I've never done before. I went to the websites of our NC Senators and wrote letters to them, urging them to support/introduce legislation for additional Tiers of UE (5&6). I also asked them to use whatever resources they had available to them to help resolve the programming issues at NCESC. I'll probably contact Gov. P's office, too.

I, for one, have been DILIGENTLY seeking employment for many, many, many months to no avail. If our UE dries up, just think what will happen to the economy. It's bad enough already and signs of recovery are slim to none. We reinvest this money BACK INTO the economy. If we can bail out the banks and the auto industries, and send money to every foreign country with a natural disaster....why can they not see that once the employed run out of benefits, groceries don't get bought, utilities don't get paid....it goes on & on & trickles down to those industries where people are still employed...which will lead to more & more layoffs....it will be a non ending decline. It will be far worse if they DON'T extend benefits.

There is also an online petition circulating for a Tier 5. I signed it...another something I've never done. It's an election year, folks. Let the incumbents know we are watching & until they make employment a pre requisite to voting, we are watching and still have some voice in THEIR future, too, provided we don't starve to death before Nov.

Here is the link to sign the petition. Please help me help us! Even jdljr depends to agree, on UE benes for his livlihood, so it helps him, too!

Perhaps we should form a new political party (lol)! Seriously, though, the time has past for us to simply do our job searches every day. Folks in Washington have the power to help us get through this crisis but they work. They are totally out of touch with what it is truly like...they need to hear your stories and your request for help. DO NOT ASSUME THEY UNDERSTAND HOW CRITICAL THIS HELP IS TO OUR VERY EXISTENCE! Please take the time to sign the petition and write to as many senators as possible!

Here is the link for the petition:


The 99ers need a Tier V added to Unemployment Benefits | Change.org


Thank, all!

deerest[/quote

I would like to AGREE with Deerest, I have done the same, and a few others....this IS important people!
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Boone, NC
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Thanks a bunch...never hurts to ask! Strange, though, that if there is unused EB that it wouldn't pull forward, too. I guess it's b/c it is state funded (I'm guessing).

Again, I cannot thank you enough for your diligent and faithful visits to this thread to keep us connected. When you're unemployed for any length of time, you really start feeling isolated and lost. Your mere presence here and willingness to help us gives us a measure of comfort. As bad as our situation is, you at least give us a source of information that helps to alleviate some of the frustration that comes along with not being able to secure a job. I'm sure I speak for many, and I am absolutely confident that your good deeds here will in some way, at some time, serve to return many blessings in your life.
You're welcome, and thank you!
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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Red face Fixed! For now

Update:

I went into the local office today, as suggested. It was interesting when I walked in- there was no line at the front desk, and 2 people seated in the waiting area. It was almost 10AM.

The receptionist was on the phone having a conversation that I'm sure has been held many times with many ESC reps lately: "We're not sure when it's going to pass ma'am. No ma'am, we haven't heard anything else." It's good having a job nowadays, but that's tough to have to keep doing every day. I hope this communication black hole clears up soon for the ESC reps!

Anyhow, I sat down with a claims specialist that understood very well what jdljr told me needed to happen. She processed a B1 NIE (I think), but said that the recent 4 week extension wasn't working quite right, and had to put me on the state extension of 20 weeks. She also said that when Congress finished its deliberation and approves something, a system-wide alteration of codes will take place to shift benefit source from state to federal.

So, for the time being, everything is okay. I'm burning something that I supposed I would have originally come into, so quantitively, the total amount of weeks remains the same if and when I roll into Tier 2.

Thanks so much for the help! And please let me know if there's anything I seem to be missing.

PS: She said the 2nd rep that I talked to was new, and in training. Maybe that's why I was given bad information.
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Old 04-15-2010, 07:50 PM
 
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Hello all,

I found a job after being unemployed for over a year. Dont give up, it can be done. Just keep plugging away and never give up. Have faith and stay positive no matter what. God bless!
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