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Old 05-07-2011, 07:57 PM
 
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The problem is you assumed he was calling you a drug addict, however there are many reasons why one would fail a drug test other then being an addict, and he never said you were gaming the system, but you have to understand his need to block those folks... I would recommend instead of replying immediately, pause and think about how it could have been meant, a not just write an emotional email, those can be ripped a part very easily.
Answering questions with questions is very confrontational. Asking if someone can pass a drug test is offensive, especially when that person has already reached out to you with an educational perspective and legitimate question. I'm not sure if you're a mole for LaRoque, but regardless, in an ideal world, the whole interaction would have been handled differently from both sides.

The end result of my conversation with him was much better though. And, that's all that matters.
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Old 05-07-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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I am not sure how you could not see it that way.. It was based around the assumption that LaRoque was saying he was a drug addict, which LaRoque never said, that is being defensive, without even writing what he wrote.
The way I see it, LaRoque was confrontational. To bring up drug testing when you receive an email from a constituent requesting a reauthorization of EB benefits is insulting.

LaRoque deserved to be called a jackass. Holwager demonstrated remarkable restraint in not using profanity in her reply to him.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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[quote=Holwager;19059817]
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Answering questions with questions is very confrontational. Asking if someone can pass a drug test is offensive, especially when that person has already reached out to you with an educational perspective and legitimate question. I'm not sure if you're a mole for LaRoque, but regardless, in an ideal world, the whole interaction would have been handled differently from both sides.

The end result of my conversation with him was much better though. And, that's all that matters.
Lol a mole, I already stated I am in your same situation..I was laid off on the 4th of July of 2009 (effective atleast). I am currently back in school, however still looking for a job, hoping to get into WIA, after waiting all this time.

Now back to your response, is a potential employer asking if you can pass a drug test offensive? Also responding with questions also seem to be a norm.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:05 PM
 
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LaRoque is an elected official, I believe he works for the citizens of this state. If wants to offer me a job I will take a drug test for him. The way I look at it, he should take one for all of us.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:07 PM
 
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No replies after answering the questions. Must be too late in the evening now.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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He just emailed me again. He thanked me for answering his questions.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:20 PM
 
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I don't understand why he can't answer questions thoroughly as he has asked of Holwager? Why didn't he respond with his answers and then ask her the questions. That says to me how he feels about us.

That is my whole problem with the Representatives, they don't answer the questions. Also it is not his job to weed out who may be scamming the system. As I agree there are most likely some. Let him be in our shoes and not be able to find a job and wonder how you will keep your home. I don't have children and it is difficult for me, so I can only imagine how extremely hard it is for families.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:49 PM
 
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Lol a mole, I already stated I am in your same situation..I was laid off on the 4th of July of 2009 (effective atleast). I am currently back in school, however still looking for a job, hoping to get into WIA, after waiting all this time.

Now back to your response, is a potential employer asking if you can pass a drug test offensive? Also responding with questions also seem to be a norm.
I don't see LaRoque as a potential employer. But, here's his final statement:

"I voted for the Bill that the Governor vetoed, and I will vote for a Bill that will provide the extension of benefits if the leadership and the governor can work it out. I wish you well and hope you can find gainful employment soon."

Let's all hope they can work something out this week (or, of course, that we find gainful employment soon.)
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:52 PM
 
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It will be the same thing because the Governor will not accept the bill and there will be another veto. Why then can't he go along with extracting the EB back out and voting on it as a standalone?
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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If the Senate pulls a majority vote as the House did the red ink should not be seen. The budget and maybe the state employee health care I believe are what has been holding up progress on EB.With any luck the House will get moving on it this week. BTW politicians and upper management are rarely ever going to give a straight answer. Like it's part of the training or something. I use the 90% rule, meaning 90% of what they say is bull****.

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