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It's not 50% of the dollars, it's 50% of the original weeks. So if your original claim paid for 18 weeks your Tier 3 would be 9 weeks. Also, the figure you were given may have not included a first payment that was made to you for Tier 3.
As with many claims it's hard to envision exactly what's going on without looking at your claim. I sometimes wish I could do that from here, but then again that'd keep me even busier, heh.
Keep in mind, too, that if you qualified for a new, regular UI claim on your 2nd benefit year and your new weekly benefit amount was less than your old weekly benefit amount, and you qualified for no extensions in your new benefit year, and they "pulled forward" your EUC (whether Tier 1, 2, 3 or 4) from your previous benefit year, your weekly benefit amount would go back up to what you were receiving in your previous benefit year. I don't think this is the case with your claim, unless you were receiving LESS in your old benefit year than your new, regular UI claim in your new benefit year. Doesn't happen that way often.
I've probably convoluted it so much for you, I apologize. But if you had any concerns whether something is correct on your claim you really need to contact someone that can actually take a look at it. I wish I could, I love claims analysis!
Sorry I'm so thick...I usually comprehend things pretty well, but I think the stress of all this on top of all the other things to worry about have rendered me slow & foggy.
My original claim was 19 weeks ($7657, @$403/wk) and this new EUC3 that is supposed to kick in on Monday is for $2579, @$403/wk, (6.399 weeks). ($403 was the original benefit year weekly amount) Something just does not add up, so I'm thinking I must have used part of it before the end of the benefit year and this was all that was remaining to pull forward. Could that be possible? BUT, if I was on EB when the benefit year ended but reverted back to euc3, would it not be 50% of the original $7657, or, roughly $3829 instead of $2579? Honestly, I've bugged you guys at esc so much in the past week that I'm ashamed to question anything. I'm so grateful to learn I qualify for ANYTHING, after 2 different reps told me I was out of extensions when I first inquired, that I feel greedy. I know I shouldn't but I do. It is mentally & emotionally taxing. My 17 yr. old son & I both applied for a job at the same place...he got an offer & I didn't!!! Talk about feeling dejected!
Sorry I'm so thick...I usually comprehend things pretty well, but I think the stress of all this on top of all the other things to worry about have rendered me slow & foggy.
My original claim was 19 weeks ($7657, @$403/wk) and this new EUC3 that is supposed to kick in on Monday is for $2579, @$403/wk, (6.399 weeks). ($403 was the original benefit year weekly amount) Something just does not add up, so I'm thinking I must have used part of it before the end of the benefit year and this was all that was remaining to pull forward. Could that be possible? BUT, if I was on EB when the benefit year ended but reverted back to euc3, would it not be 50% of the original $7657, or, roughly $3829 instead of $2579? Honestly, I've bugged you guys at esc so much in the past week that I'm ashamed to question anything. I'm so grateful to learn I qualify for ANYTHING, after 2 different reps told me I was out of extensions when I first inquired, that I feel greedy. I know I shouldn't but I do. It is mentally & emotionally taxing. My 17 yr. old son & I both applied for a job at the same place...he got an offer & I didn't!!! Talk about feeling dejected!
Yes, it's entirely possible that before your benefit year ended they had gotten the programming for Tier 3 done so you may have been switched over to Tier 3 and didn't realize it. So you very well may have gotten some of your Tier 3 in your last benefit year, then what was left over was brought forward to your new benefit year. You should have qualified for like 9 or so weeks of Tier 3. I would just have someone look at both benefit years and see if both have Tier 3 (code I1) showing on the 07 screen. That would tell you.
Yes, it's entirely possible that before your benefit year ended they had gotten the programming for Tier 3 done so you may have been switched over to Tier 3 and didn't realize it. So you very well may have gotten some of your Tier 3 in your last benefit year, then what was left over was brought forward to your new benefit year. You should have qualified for like 9 or so weeks of Tier 3. I would just have someone look at both benefit years and see if both have Tier 3 (code I1) showing on the 07 screen. That would tell you.
But my benefit year ended just prior to the Nov. 6 extension, (10/26 I think) so were they already working on the programming for Tier 3 then?
But my benefit year ended just prior to the Nov. 6 extension, (10/26 I think) so were they already working on the programming for Tier 3 then?
Okay--I just went back & looked at the last Monetary Determination letter I rec'd in my first benefit year. It says I qualified for EB and max benefit amount was $5803. This was rec'd roughly 2 mos. before my benefit year ended, so when I multiplied $403 (weekly benefit amount) x 8 weeks (2 mos.) and subtracted that from the $5803, guess what?....the balance is $2579 which is the exact amount they are telling me was pulled forward. Yet----I thought they could not pull EB forward, so I'm really scared they are giving me something I'm not entitled to. Any thoughts?
Okay--I just went back & looked at the last Monetary Determination letter I rec'd in my first benefit year. It says I qualified for EB and max benefit amount was $5803. This was rec'd roughly 2 mos. before my benefit year ended, so when I multiplied $403 (weekly benefit amount) x 8 weeks (2 mos.) and subtracted that from the $5803, guess what?....the balance is $2579 which is the exact amount they are telling me was pulled forward. Yet----I thought they could not pull EB forward, so I'm really scared they are giving me something I'm not entitled to. Any thoughts?
Did you receive regular UI in your new benefit year, or no? If yes, but you did not qualify for a new round of Tier 1, then they should not pull forward EB, only EUC. If no (if all you received in your new benefit year was extension money pulled forward from your last benefit year), then yes, you should be entitled to EB now (if you've exhausted Tier 3) or when you've exhausted all of your EUC.
Did you receive regular UI in your new benefit year, or no? If yes, but you did not qualify for a new round of Tier 1, then they should not pull forward EB, only EUC. If no (if all you received in your new benefit year was extension money pulled forward from your last benefit year), then yes, you should be entitled to EB now (if you've exhausted Tier 3) or when you've exhausted all of your EUC.
That's exactly what I was worried about. When they opened a new benefit year for me, I qualified for 13 wks regular UE, but no extensions. (They said at that time that I just barely qualified, but if I had not, that they could have pulled unused money from the previous year.) So that is now exhausted. But they told me that since I did not exhaust all my previous year benefits, that I qualified for Tier 3. When I questioned it because it was EB, the rep said that it was EUC3, not EB. So I still don't completely understand.
When they passed the new extensions on Nov. 6, it was supposed to be for folks who had exhausted all their benefits, by adding tiers, right? At least that is what I have read in a number of places, including the ESC website. So how is it supposed to help if you are required to have unused money? That seems contradictory, as you haven't exhausted all available benefits. It seems that if the number of weeks has been increased, one should be eligible to go back and pick up those weeks that have been added by the new tiers, as long as they fall within the dates required for filing an original claim (on or after May 7, 2006).
That's exactly what I was worried about. When they opened a new benefit year for me, I qualified for 13 wks regular UE, but no extensions. (They said at that time that I just barely qualified, but if I had not, that they could have pulled unused money from the previous year.) So that is now exhausted. But they told me that since I did not exhaust all my previous year benefits, that I qualified for Tier 3. When I questioned it because it was EB, the rep said that it was EUC3, not EB. So I still don't completely understand.
When they passed the new extensions on Nov. 6, it was supposed to be for folks who had exhausted all their benefits, by adding tiers, right? At least that is what I have read in a number of places, including the ESC website. So how is it supposed to help if you are required to have unused money? That seems contradictory, as you haven't exhausted all available benefits. It seems that if the number of weeks has been increased, one should be eligible to go back and pick up those weeks that have been added by the new tiers, as long as they fall within the dates required for filing an original claim (on or after May 7, 2006).
Tier 3 is just another extension of EUC. If you qualify for Tier 1 EUC you should qualify for all the remaining tiers (2, 3 & 4). Tier 3 is successive to Tier 2, which means it automatically follows when Tier 2 has been exhausted. Exhausting EB is not a requirement to get Tier 3. EUC and EB are two completely different programs.
No one is required to have unused money to get Tier 3 or any other tier. It just so happens that with the number of extensions currently in place, the length of available UI to many (up to 99 weeks) far exceeds the length of the benefit year (52 weeks). So invariably most people will have unused money on their previous benefit years that can be pulled forward to a new benefit year. I don't know if pulling forward money from an old benefit year to a new benefit year has always been done, but I doubt it. Much of what's happening with UI right now (all the extensions and pull forwards) is uncharted territory due to the economy. In most other times of a healthy economy there are no extensions and after the initial 13-26 weeks, that's it.
Even someone at this point that has exhausted their Tier 2 months and months ago would be eligible for Tier 3, then Tier 4 (presuming no intervening employment that resulted in a termination or a quit). It's all EUC, and once you qualify for the first tier you should be eligible for all successive tiers.
Tier 3 is just another extension of EUC. If you qualify for Tier 1 EUC you should qualify for all the remaining tiers (2, 3 & 4). Tier 3 is successive to Tier 2, which means it automatically follows when Tier 2 has been exhausted. Exhausting EB is not a requirement to get Tier 3. EUC and EB are two completely different programs.
No one is required to have unused money to get Tier 3 or any other tier. It just so happens that with the number of extensions currently in place, the length of available UI to many (up to 99 weeks) far exceeds the length of the benefit year (52 weeks). So invariably most people will have unused money on their previous benefit years that can be pulled forward to a new benefit year. I don't know if pulling forward money from an old benefit year to a new benefit year has always been done, but I doubt it. Much of what's happening with UI right now (all the extensions and pull forwards) is uncharted territory due to the economy. In most other times of a healthy economy there are no extensions and after the initial 13-26 weeks, that's it.
Even someone at this point that has exhausted their Tier 2 months and months ago would be eligible for Tier 3, then Tier 4 (presuming no intervening employment that resulted in a termination or a quit). It's all EUC, and once you qualify for the first tier you should be eligible for all successive tiers.
jdljr, I appreciate al your time & effort to explain this, but I think I have over analyzed my situation to the point that I keep going in circles, so I apologize for the fact that it is just not sinking in.
The Rep at ESC looked at my file & told me that in my first claim year, I rec'd regular UI. Then she said I rec'd Tier 1 and 2 of EUC. Then I went to EB, but did not use it all before my benefit year expired. A new bene yr ensued on 10/28/09, for which I got regular UI benes, but don't qualify for any extensions (this is exhausted now). The rep told me I qualify for EUC Tier 3 and that the amount is $2579, which is the remainder of my unused, 1st year EB & that this amount is the amount of Tier 3 EUC I will get, starting Monday. I guess I don't understand why, if I am going to Tier 3 now, which did not previously exist, why the amount would not be 50% of the original regular bene amount ($7657) or $3828.50 (I realize they round) rather than the $2579 which is the balance of the remaining old EB.
jdljr, I appreciate al your time & effort to explain this, but I think I have over analyzed my situation to the point that I keep going in circles, so I apologize for the fact that it is just not sinking in.
The Rep at ESC looked at my file & told me that in my first claim year, I rec'd regular UI. Then she said I rec'd Tier 1 and 2 of EUC. Then I went to EB, but did not use it all before my benefit year expired. A new bene yr ensued on 10/28/09, for which I got regular UI benes, but don't qualify for any extensions (this is exhausted now). The rep told me I qualify for EUC Tier 3 and that the amount is $2579, which is the remainder of my unused, 1st year EB & that this amount is the amount of Tier 3 EUC I will get, starting Monday. I guess I don't understand why, if I am going to Tier 3 now, which did not previously exist, why the amount would not be 50% of the original regular bene amount ($7657) or $3828.50 (I realize they round) rather than the $2579 which is the balance of the remaining old EB.
Yea, I don't understand it either. Tier 3 amount has nothing to do with EB amount. So that $2579 might have been what was left in EB, but that is not your Tier 3 amount. Tier 3 should be 50% of the number of weeks of your regular UI. If I could look at your claim I would.
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