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Old 05-26-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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If they get 72 votes in the house, it won't matter if she vetoes it. But that's easier said than done. 4 Dems have to cross the aisle. Let's hope they do it.
So if they get 72 votes in the House, what would the next step be? Does it have to go to the Senate? And how can it become law if she doesn't sign it? I am just curious.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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I think they're even more concerned to be known as the NC Government that shut down the state because they're all too stubborn to compromise.

I think they'll strike a deal. They all know that this stalemate can not continue.

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Bev wants to be known as the Governor that defended education, the Republicans want to be known as the Legislature that lowered taxes.

They are both fixing to be known as the NC Government that turned 50,000 unemployed into 50,000 homeless.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:54 AM
 
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These people below have the power to reinstate benefits TODAY:


**ALSO look up your local House and Senate representatives here:
North Carolina General Assembly - NCGA - Representation (http://www.ncleg.net/GIS/Representation/Representation.html - broken link)
(they are most likely to respond to you)

Please send all those frustrations to the people that can make a difference today. We can do this!
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:56 AM
 
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I cannot believe Perdue is squabbling over a $.5 million dollar difference. Yes, 20,000 may lose their jobs in education, but what about the 50,000 and growing that have already lost jobs for the last 2+ years? This economy stinks for everyone. I do not understand how a school system can operate with the losses they are proposing, but why should one sector be exempt from what is happening all across the country - simply because Perdue has the NCAE in her back pocket? Or should that be the other way around? I have tried, after 5 years at home with my children, to re-enter the education work force and can't get back in with a crow-bar! So, I know whence I speak.

I don't want anyone to lose jobs, but has anyone looked at losses in other categories that are being cut with any of the budgets? I am sure there are other sectors that would be cut. No one is pointing those out in their arguments. Just the Holy Grail of education. Free public education in this country is a privelege. Not a right. The majority of the rest of the world has to actually personally PAY to be educated, even at the youngest ages. Her sticking point is not anything other than education. But compromise has to come from both sides - and EVERYONE may have to suffer because of it, not just one or two groups.

Trying to protect one group at the expense of others is not the way to go. The proposed compromise is not that far off from what was originally proposed by Bev. What's the big deal?

It is not a .5 million, it is .5 BILLION, also your callousness towards your fellow North Carolinan's worries me.

Free Education is a RIGHT, not a "privilege", in this country, where you get your statement from I can not fathom.

There is another important reason why education should not lose 14000 positions across the state, and that is without education this state and country will fall, even further then it already has.

As for why we should worry about 20000 positions, that is 5% of the current unemployed numbers. That is an additional loss of money to the economy. Have you ever heard of a thing called a downward spiral?
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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So if they get 72 votes in the House, what would the next step be? Does it have to go to the Senate? And how can it become law if she doesn't sign it? I am just curious.
Not sure on the "becoming law" part. Anyone else have an answer? Senate has Rep majority and veto-proof numbers to get it through and onto the Gov. That's the easy part. I just hope they are working out a compromise as I type, but that's wishful thinking...and actually dumb of me to be slightly confident.

The GOP's grade during this battle is an F---
The Governor's grade is an F.

What ridiculous leadership the state of NC is under. Very, very sad.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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It still has to go to the Senate which has a Republican veto proof majority. From there, if Perdue signs, it's done. If she vetoes, then the the 74 votes in the house need to stay with their original vote to override the veto. The Senate will automatically override it on party lines. This would definitely take much longer than if Perdue simply signs.

I hear there is negotions going on behind the scenes with the GA and Perdue so hopefully they'll put something together that will avoid a veto.

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So if they get 72 votes in the House, what would the next step be? Does it have to go to the Senate? And how can it become law if she doesn't sign it? I am just curious.
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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So if they get 72 votes in the House, what would the next step be? Does it have to go to the Senate? And how can it become law if she doesn't sign it? I am just curious.

No, 72 votes in the house means nothing at this point, other then it passes the house. It still has to go to the senate, then to the gov. If it fails the gov then the IF they can get 72 in the house again they can override the gov. This is tricky though, it is easy to cross political lines to approve something, it is much harder to cross the line for an override of your own party.

Last edited by SunnyKayak; 05-26-2011 at 08:21 AM.. Reason: off topic
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Sandhills, NC
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I am so sorry to say this...however...bottom line is...this issue is not and should not be connected to the State Budget. It is just insane for the GOP to attach US to a budget that will allow for addtional loss of employment in any segment. I am so saddened that we are pawns in a power fight The EB is totally Federally Funded!

IMHO
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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I am so sorry to say this...however...bottom line is...this issue is not and should not be connected to the State Budget. It is just insane for the GOP to attach US to a budget that will allow for addtional loss of employment in any segment. I am so saddened that we are pawns in a power fight The EB is totally Federally Funded!

IMHO

The vast majority of us are with you here stromcloud. Right now there are some whose needs are so great that it is hard to see past the situation and the problems that will arise later. We cant fault them really, most of us would be in the same situation.
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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I could name most of them... and that is MUCH harder then remembering the basics of how the legislative, executive, and judicial branches work...

In addition it is normally the 8th grade that it is taught, and then it is covered again in US history in the 10 grade.
Believe me, I've had a refresher course on the legislative processs over the past few weeks. I just thought the "social studies" reference was funny. That's all. But let's stay on course w/ extending EB. Keep on working the phones, people!
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