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Thanks a lot--- So to clarify (in case I am assuming wrong)
the TIER 3 and TIER 4
would be approved off of LAST YEARS claim?
since I obviously (as I think 99.99% of all of us) would be monetarilly ineligible if it was based off the year 2 claim?
and I assume, that unless there is something disqualifying or a change that would rule me out, that Tier 3 and Tier 4 are usually in order if you were approved for Tier 1 and Tier 2 last year?
ALSO Is there any way on the system to view your LAST YEARS EU info??? I wanted to verify 100% that I was originally approved for 26 weeks. (so that I can estimate on the next levels)
Thanks a lot JDLJR for all the help.
Yes, you have it correct. Tier 3 and 4 would be based on whatever claim you qualified for it with. Plus, when it is pulled forward, you will go back to THAT weekly benefit amount when you start receiving it. So if you were getting $330 per week on benefit year 1, and $195 on benefit year 2, when you exhaust your regular UI in benefit year 2 and they pull forward your EUC from benefit year 1, they also pull forward that $330 weekly benefit amount. Of course it works both ways, so if your benefit year 1 weekly benefit amount was lower than your current benefit year 2 weekly benefit amount, your weekly benefit amount will go down when they pull forward your EUC.
If by chance you can remember how many weeks of Tier 2 you received, the number of weeks of Tier 3 would be the same. Not sure about seeing previous benefit year information online. Sometime when you are in touch with your local office, they would be able to tell you on the B.46 screen how many weeks your regular UI set up for on your "1" record.
JDLJR i am not going to apologize or be thanKful to NCESC for paying me 99 or whatever weeks there are. I paid hundred of thousands of dollars in taxes when i had a job so the agencies like NCESC had money to pay someone like you. This is the money i earned over time so i can have help when i needed. Lucky? Thankful ? F,,,,,k that. Give me the money that i earned as fast as you taxed me when I worked. Based on what I have heard here, you are a great individual who helps people out of greatness of your heart, but PLEASE do not defend the slow ass NCESC in this case.
The slowness of the process is unprecedented, not the fact that 99 weeks of unemployment is being paid. We are in unprecedented financial crisis in United States, unemployment is record high, NCESC need to step up as the goverment did approving the extensions. All the stupid letters that come every day, the BS by reps and managers, this is 21st century, give me a f.....ing break.
>> The programmers are hardly sitting around with their thumb up their A$$.
I respectfully disagree.
I maintain that programming has nothing to do with this. I think the administration, the leadership, of NCESC knows that laypeople who lack tech savvy will largely accept the excuse that the programming needs to be done. I sincerely doubt this. If the programming *IS* the issue, the NCESC is a public service, and the timetable should be open to public view. We should have daily updates on very specific tech related progress. But... despite the polite nature of some NCESC activity, the default is to say nothing, give no useful information, and just say: "wait."
The employees of NCESC work at the whim and financial support of the taxpayers of North Carolina. A FOIA request should be filed to insist that the NCESC make this "programming" transparent, i.e. viewable and accountable to the taxpayers of North Carolina, and the United States as a whole because the EUC rounds are being funded by the taxpayers of ALL fifty states. Waiting for TV "news" stations, or the press, to pursue this is a fool's dream. They are too busy panty sniffing in the bushes of Tiger Woods' palatial estate.
The EUC benefits are a right. They are not a gift, a privilege.
I am of the opinion that NCESC is lying from the top. Employees of NCESC at the bottom rung are just left out of the loop. This jdljr guy is all well and good, but we deserve better. We deserve actual, daily, direct, available to ALL, information from *ALL* NCESC employees on demand, each hour, each minute, of each day.
The level of corruption and incompetence from NCESC is astonishing and they are well past their grace period.
JDLJR i am not going to apologize or be thanKful to NCESC for paying me 99 or whatever weeks there are. I paid hundred of thousands of dollars in taxes when i had a job so the agencies like NCESC had money to pay someone like you. This is the money i earned over time so i can have help when i needed. Lucky? Thankful ? F,,,,,k that. Give me the money that i earned as fast as you taxed me when I worked. Based on what I have heard here, you are a great individual who helps people out of greatness of your heart, but PLEASE do not defend the slow ass NCESC in this case.
The slowness of the process is unprecedented, not the fact that 99 weeks of unemployment is being paid. We are in unprecedented financial crisis in United States, unemployment is record high, NCESC need to step up as the goverment did approving the extensions. All the stupid letters that come every day, the BS by reps and managers, this is 21st century, give me a f.....ing break.
Unless you are an employer, then you personally have paid NOTHING into ESC. NOTHING. I'll say it again...NOTHING. Do you need me to repeat?
EMPLOYERS pay taxes to ESC based on the number of employees they have and previous unemployment claims. When people say "I've paid into the system, it's owed to me"...NO you have not. EMPLOYEES do not pay into ESC. Period. It is an INSURANCE policy that employers pay "premiums" to ESC for times when they must lay people off. And in some cases people who have been fired or quit are also deemed eligible for benefits. The amount of benefits people receive far exceed the amount of "premiums" paid by the employers, especially in times like this. Thus, the State's UI fund ran out long ago and now owes the Feds $2 Billion and counting.
Tier 4 will be finished soon. But what next after Tier 4 (and EB)? There is nothing in place right now.
I can order a DVD from Amazon and track its progress using GPS for every last inch that that package takes, but in 2010, NCESC's best effort at tracking *MY* money (not NCESC's) is "Heh, heh. Those silly computers! Who knows?" That hayseed yuck-yuck crap would not fly if you were ordering a burger, and it is definitely not acceptable when the livelihood of citizens is on the line.
How long would you put up with Wachovia or BofA if they said: "We don't know when our computers will release the funds in your account. Check back in April. Or May. Who knows? It's really busy around here."
>> EMPLOYERS pay taxes to ESC based on the number of employees they have and previous unemployment claims. When people say "I've paid into the system, it's owed to me"...NO you have not. EMPLOYEES do not pay into ESC. Period.
Wrong.
Period.
Employers pay SOME portion of the benefits. State taxpayers pay the bulk, and citizens of all fifty states pay 100% of benefits that are deployed at the federal level. In addition, much of what an employer pays is off-set by tax breaks which return much of that money spent. Finally, the little amount that employers do pay is part of a cost of total employment for a worker and ought to be considered part of his compensation. The labor and value of the worker drives that, generates that money. Not the good will of the employer. And many employers do business at all in many states, including North Carolina, primarily because, as North Carolina is famous for (or infamous, depending on your perspective), they offer huge tax breaks to "encourage" businesses. What does that mean? It means taxpayer supported. ALL taxpayers. We. Us. You.
That you would raise this issue disingenuously quite starkly illustrates that you do in fact view these payments as hand-outs and not a guaranteed right. I suspect many of your fellow NCESC workers probably, and incorrectly, feel the same and this is likely much of the reason why this bottleneck continues.
Our money. Not yours.
Period.
You are a bank tellar. A person who acts as an intermediary. But when we get our money and how we spend it are no concern, no business, of yours.
>> EMPLOYERS pay taxes to ESC based on the number of employees they have and previous unemployment claims. When people say "I've paid into the system, it's owed to me"...NO you have not. EMPLOYEES do not pay into ESC. Period.
Wrong.
Period.
Employers pay SOME portion of the benefits. State taxpayers pay the bulk, and citizens of all fifty states pay 100% of benefits that are deployed at the federal level. In addition, much of what an employer pays is off-set by tax breaks which return much of that money spent. Finally, the little amount that employers do pay is part of a cost of total employment for a worker and ought to be considered part of his compensation. The labor and value of the worker drives that, generates that money. Not the good will of the employer. And many employers do business at all in many states, including North Carolina, primarily because, as North Carolina is famous for (or infamous, depending on your perspective), they offer huge tax breaks to "encourage" businesses. What does that mean? It means taxpayer supported. ALL taxpayers. We. Us. You.
That you would raise this issue disingenuously quite starkly illustrates that you do in fact view these payments as hand-outs and not a guaranteed right. I suspect many of your fellow NCESC workers probably, and incorrectly, feel the same and this is likely much of the reason why this bottleneck continues.
Our money. Not yours.
Period.
You are a bank tellar. A person who acts as an intermediary. But when we get our money and how we spend it are no concern, no business, of yours.
Oh no, I fully believe that everyone is entitled to what they're qualified for as long as they're continually meeting the requirements. But not a penny more. There are two sides - the claimant, and the fund.
And I will agree that most, if not all employers would not do this as a goodwill gesture. I wouldn't pay certain things either if I wasn't required to.
Nope, it's not my money. I truly wish that the system would work flawlessly and everyone's claims would stay on track and all extensions would transition smoothly. It used to be better, even a couple months ago. Just seems like it slowly, gradually, gets harder to keep everything going smoothly. I fired off an email to our regional claims specialist today that outlined problems I have on 9 different claims right now (and counting), expressing my frustration with the lack of communication from Raleigh and how certain fixes seem to not be working right now. Hoping that each day that passes fewer and fewer problems will occur and we'll get back to smoother processing.
A bunch of my fellow employees told me to watch out for one couple. They said that couple was rude, belligerent, and confrontational. Other less palatable words were used to describe them.
When I met that couple, I spoke to them. Turns out their luggage had been lost for DAYS. They had been on this tour without their bags for days. Traveling hundreds of miles in the same set of clothes. And each day they inquired, they were given another snippy assurance that "we're on it."
Now, this particular tour company was and is highly regarded. The cost to take this tour was very high. People who took these tours paid a premium for superior service. For many of them, it was a once in a lifetime experience. What they were getting from my fellow employees and, in some cases, my friends, was the run-around.
I told them to wait. I went to the phone and started making calls. I made at least a dozen calls and literally walked the problem right up the line just short of the CEO. I said: "I will not be getting off this phone until the company finds the luggage or cuts a check this very minute and personally hands it to the couple for the full amount of their possessions."
They found the luggage.
Several cities and hundreds of miles away. I told them to put a driver in a van right away and drive the luggage to our location. The luggage arrived late that night.
And guess what? The next morning, the rude, belligerent, and abusive couple suddenly became exactly the opposite. Whose fault? The company's. And the employees who just buried their heads in the sand and echoed the same tired excuses right down the line (it took me most of my off-hours that night after a brutally long day to resolve it. When I should have been eating dinner and drinking with my friends, I was tracking down their luggage). Easier to call that couple all kinds of rude names than solve the problem. Did my "friends" and fellow employees appreciate my blunt approach? I frankly did not and do not give a flying f**k. It was a matter of principle, and it was the right thing to do.
JDLJR Please do your research before you say something and finish it with a period. Taxpayers pay these benefits, it goes through channels, different tax withdrawals, various channels through the employers, but at the end it comes out of taxpayers pockets. it shockes me that you not knowing the logistics of benefits, accuse me of giving incorrect information. Tom Janes explained my point in more polite terms and in a lot of details which are absolutely true. If you think that your salary comes from the "charity Gods" employers, you are being foolish. You want me to repeat it again? Foolish. I want my 500 dollars a week, and i'll spend on dances at strip club if i wanted to.
No, you're not risking losing your benefits. If that job is not intended to be your new full-time employment, but rather is a "side job" and you're still searching for full-time employment, then you just have to report the earnings you make in that job when you certify for unemployment. Now, don't misunderstand. You cannot make a living on "side jobs and supplemental unemployment", if you will. Unemployment is not designed to supplement someone's part-time employment for years and years. A part time side job (and reporting those earnings) is ok as long as you're continuing to search for full-time employment to replace your lost full time employment, and will then stop collecting unemployment once you do find that full time job.
You can earn 20% of your weekly benefit amount each week (more in some cases, but not in yours I'm sure) and it won't affect your benefits. Anything over that is deducted dollar for dollar from your weekly benefit amount. So if you earn more than what unemployment would pay, yes, the money just stays there for that week and essentially extends by one or two weeks (however many weeks you don't get paid) the number of weeks that particular program (regular UI, EUC, EB, etc) is available to you.
Employers report earnings in a lump sum quarterly amount.
Thanks so much. As always I appreciate you and your help with "all" of us on this forum.
I know you work all day and do this out of the kindness of your heart in your spare time .
Just wanted to know how appreciated you are for everything you do
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