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Old 09-21-2009, 05:44 PM
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Default Both Jacksonville & Fayetteville make top 10 for Strongest US Building Markets

# 5 and 7 respectively

America's strongest building markets - MSN Real Estate

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Old 09-21-2009, 06:20 PM
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Military being deployed longer to those duty stations / overseas. I would rule those areas out as any kind of National or Statewide economic indicator, OR as popular places people want to move to.

The article spells it right out.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:32 PM
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Another plus for Fayetteville.

Fort Bragg is largest Army post in personnel with more troops coming in the next couple of years.

We do owe our market's stability to the military. Being retired mlilitary myself I have no problem with that.

I can't speak for Jacksonville but Fayetteville is a pretty good place to live and getting better every year.
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Another plus for Fayetteville.

Fort Bragg is largest Army post in personnel with more troops coming in the next couple of years.

We do owe our market's stability to the military. Being retired mlilitary myself I have no problem with that.

I can't speak for Jacksonville but Fayetteville is a pretty good place to live and getting better every year.
Fayetteville is a terrible crime infested place with way too many ran down trailer parks. It' s an area that never impoves, it just gets worse with time. This segment of an article I find describes it better than I can.

Fayettenam" and "Fatalville"--the nicknames are not flattering. As much as Fayetteville is known as a military stronghold, it's known for the bases' unfortunate byproducts: stripjoints and bar brawls, prostitution and pawnshops, surplus stores stocked with weapons and war gear. Nagging poverty, persistent crime and acres of substandard housing haven't helped. To top it all off, there's the boom and bang of combat practice and the planes screaming over at low altitudes--incessant training that reminds civilians they live in what military consultants call "noise and accident potential zones."

"The city has a bad reputation, to say the least," Lutz writes. "Many people think of Fayetteville, as I have been told again and again, as a place to get a dozen beers and a sexual disease."

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I don't like the place very much either, but those comments are over the top stupid, and a slam it doesn't deserve.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:33 PM
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Ms. Lutz who wrote that does not think much about our military. The book she wrote is a horrible slanted agenda driven left wing diatribe. It was also written in 2001. The city has changed quite a bit since then.

Life in War's Shadow: UNC-Chapel Hill professor Catherine Lutz's new book, Homefront, explores Fayetteville as a microcosm of U.S. militarism: Arts: Feature

Plus if you want to cherry pick quotes... How about the next paragraph.....

"But during six years of research, Lutz discovered a city with social riches that belie the ruinous reputation. "It's got more going for it than most North Carolina cities, because it has all these cosmopolitan qualities," she says. A global assortment of ethnic groups, including many who came to Fayetteville as war brides or refugees, provides an uncommonly varied set of cultures for a city in the South. "

I happen to like our gun and gear filled surplus stores.

Lots of folks love to bash Fayetteville (It's the ugly stepchild of NC) but they would hate to loose the billions the military pumps into the state each year.

Fayetteville is working hard to erase that Fayettenam image. It will take a while longer but if that is the only side of the city you choose to see then nobody will ever convince you otherwise.
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Fayetteville is a terrible crime infested place with way too many ran down trailer parks. It' s an area that never impoves, it just gets worse with time. This segment of an article I find describes it better than I can.

Fayettenam" and "Fatalville"--the nicknames are not flattering. As much as Fayetteville is known as a military stronghold, it's known for the bases' unfortunate byproducts: stripjoints and bar brawls, prostitution and pawnshops, surplus stores stocked with weapons and war gear. Nagging poverty, persistent crime and acres of substandard housing haven't helped. To top it all off, there's the boom and bang of combat practice and the planes screaming over at low altitudes--incessant training that reminds civilians they live in what military consultants call "noise and accident potential zones."

"The city has a bad reputation, to say the least," Lutz writes. "Many people think of Fayetteville, as I have been told again and again, as a place to get a dozen beers and a sexual disease."
After reading this, I kinda like Fayetteville even more! Nice post. I think I might just pay Fayetteville a visit. It sounds like our state's most interesting city in the east. WOW!!! Way to go Fayetteville!
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I'll challenge folks to come out to downtown Fayetteville/Festival Park this weekend for the International Folk Festival. There will be food, fun, cultural performances, and a parade of nations on Saturday. You can see for yourself of the best events of the year that celebrates all the cultures that are working to make Fayetteville a decent place to live.


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I hope the weather cooperates.
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Looks like most of what is being built is apartments though.
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[quote=faabala;10860844]Ms. Lutz who wrote that does not think much about our military. The book she wrote is a horrible slanted agenda driven left wing diatribe. It was also written in 2001. The city has changed quite a bit since then.[/QUOTE}

I find that very hard to believe considering Cumberland County as a whole has shown no growth in the last 10 years. From 299,506 in 1998 to 312,696 in 2008. The only reason it showed an increase of 13,000 in 10 years is a 3 to1 birthrate/deathrate ratio. It's the only urban NC county other than Onslow County to show no migration gain(true growth).

At the same time Wake County grow by 272,000, almost the whole population of Cumberland County in 10 years. Same deal for Mecklenburg County.

Cumberland County, NC Population and Components of Change

http://recenter.tamu.edu/data/popc/pc37183.htm

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