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Old 07-01-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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Sunny:
What did you think about the White House being bathed in the rainbow colors?

Just so you know, I thought it was a terribly inappropriate, mean spirited poke in the eye to MILLIONS of Americans that sincerely believe "gay" marriage is wrong.

Hardly a way to "bring us together." Magnanimity in victory and all that should be a core competency of the President. Just seemed to me he chose to turn what should have been a people moment into a very ugly political jab.

My view on this "gesture" in no way degrades my support for total equality of gay individuals, I just thought the light show was in poor taste.
I guess people see what they want to see.

The White House bathed in rainbow colors was meant to be a celebration of a historical win for civil rights.

Some people who were against those civil rights only wanted to see an "ugly political jab".

Personally, I thought it was fantastic.
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Old 07-01-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Leave it up to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas to make North Carolina look good. Those states' histrionic reaction to marriage equality has really upstaged the conservative responses anywhere else. Those states really stand apart in their cultural backwater status.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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Leave it up to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas to make North Carolina look good. Those states' histrionic reaction to marriage equality has really upstaged the conservative responses anywhere else. Those states really stand apart in their cultural backwater status.
Yet they have some very liberal areas within them...you can't really hold the whole state responsible. From my understanding it's just a few counties within each state and a couple of grandstanding politicians. They will hopefully soon realize that they look like buffoons and move on to their next humanity-saving crusade.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:48 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Leave it up to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas to make North Carolina look good. Those states' histrionic reaction to marriage equality has really upstaged the conservative responses anywhere else. Those states really stand apart in their cultural backwater status.
I don't think it's any different than way NC was after and during A-1. A lot of NC counties resisted including the county Charlotte is in Mecklenburg.
They are reacting until federal courts in the 6th District gave formal ruling like Mecklenburg waited on Fourth Circuit.
Heck even Tillis still resisted.
I work in Fleas across the central part of the state and many are not pleased. I was so wanting to wear my 'Love Conquers Hate' day after ruling but some are hurt and I respect how they feel regardless I see different.
I listen and let them believe how they fill but NC is far from putting up resistance.
I can bet there will be more legislation suppressing LGBT once a new session begins and it is also a good wedge issue to get votes.
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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Oh, they are very different. NC was responding to a 4th Circuit decision in which Virginia was the defendant. Moreover, NC's attorney general and governor fairly immediately stated that the state would comply with the 4th Circuit decision. Yes, there were some clerks who resisted, but that is to be expected anywhere. That even happened in New York and New England. Tillis said he would lead the appeal, but after that, he went pretty quiet. IN fact, Tillis voted to give same-sex married couples federal benefits just a few weeks ago. Mississippi, Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana are CURRENTLY resisting a US Supreme Court decision that has definitively settled the matter for the entire country. Even the Virgin Islands have complied by now.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill
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The government should remove itself from marriage totally. AS predicted by some, people are now petitioning to marry multiple people. Latest is in Montana. Frankly why not? Have a wife and a husband.

Stop issuing marriage licenses to anyone.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:34 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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The government should remove itself from marriage totally. AS predicted by some, people are now petitioning to marry multiple people. Latest is in Montana. Frankly why not? Have a wife and a husband.

Stop issuing marriage licenses to anyone.

It is stated in the bible for those that claim traditional marriage of multiple partners..
The docket for this year has well pass the cross over but likely a bill to create such amendment like you claim far as removing marriage and going to contracts where the state can refuse who it does contracts with.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:37 AM
 
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Not gonna happen, and shouldn't happen. The state has an interest in promoting, regulating, and arbitrating marriage and its ancillary issues. As for polygamy, polygamists are free to make arguments in courts like everyone else, but numerical discrimination is not the same type of invidious discrimination that sexual orientation discrimination is. Society has largely come to the conclusion that disparate treatment on the basis of orientation is immoral and illegal; it has not come to that conclusion about numerosity discrimination.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill
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The state should remove itself completely. No licenses or contracts. I can remember when people said allowing gay marriage will open the door to all sorts of other arrangements. Of course they were shouted down. But they were right. Marriage will mean less and less as time passes. Marriage rates will continue to decline as people embrace the latest 'freedom' to marry.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: The Emerald City
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The state should remove itself completely. No licenses or contracts. I can remember when people said allowing gay marriage will open the door to all sorts of other arrangements. Of course they were shouted down. But they were right. Marriage will mean less and less as time passes. Marriage rates will continue to decline as people embrace the latest 'freedom' to marry.
By taking the legal contract out, it really would mean less.
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