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Old 04-20-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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It's up to LE to enforce this, and evidently they plan do try and do it - somehow, otherwise we wouldn't even be discussing it now.

Most people can get a pretty good impression of other people by how they post and what they post. That is why we all have certain feelings about other members, it's all based on the posts they make and what they state in those posts.

This has nothing to do with drivers licenses, it is in regards to registering vehicles. It is up to the folks who are coming here to work to educate themselves on what they need to do to be within the bounds of the law. It's not up to the state to stop every single person coming here to work and then read them the laws of ND. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

Saying that the vast majority of people don't even know about it, doesn't matter, it's the law.

People need to take the steps to educate themselves when they are working in a place that isn't their home, or face the consequences of choosing to remain uninformed.

Some officers are more lenient than others - no doubt, so it's all in the luck of the draw on that one.

An article addressing some of the very things we are discussing, lots of info:

ASK YOUR GOVERNMENT: Newcomers to state must get N.D. license plates | Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, North Dakota
Thanks for the link, good article. Makes it very easy to understand....
As usual, good informative post!!
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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It doesn't make any difference where a vehicle is titled. When you purchase registration and plates, they are valid until they expire. Regardless what what you do with the title. You are correct when you say that you can only have one title. But you can have multiple plates and registration.

Do you remember seeing semi's and they had a license plate with a bunch of little stickers on it? Each of those was a license plate for that state. You used to plate because it was cheaper. You could plate to transport through ND, or you could pay permit fees on each trip. It was cheaper to plate. Since then, it has changed for semi's. There is a larger sticker that is on the side of the truck so that it can be read from the scale window.
I do remember years ago seeing the front of semis with many license plates on their bumpers. That eventually was replaced with the IRP plates we have today. The stickers on the side of the trucks are the IFTA stickers used for fuel taxes between the states and you do quarterly filings regarding fuel and mileage.

Just think, IRP plates on cars along with IFTA would eliminate ever having to change plates depending on where you live. All we need now is all 4-wheeler owners to do quarterly filings and keep track of fuel purchases and mileage accrued in every state.

But in all seriousness, I was told by the Bismarck people at DOT that when I surrender my Illinois title and have by car titled in North Dakota that my Illinois plates become invalid and can not be renewed there anymore.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Western Nebraskansas
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No, the way it looks you're supposed to print something out online and display it in your window. (Check out the link). In other words, you have to pay your licensing fees in your home state AND North Dakota. Your home state provides standard plates (and retains title) like always, ND just gives a piece of paper kind of like an in-transit.

I was talking to my husband last night and he'd never heard of it. Nor, in the past couple months, has he seen ANY out of state vehicles with a piece of paper in the windows that might be a temporary "plate".
"Are you serious?" was the actual response.

Which proves my point that people don't even know they're supposed to be looking for unusual laws.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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Amen Jan . It's issues like this one that kind of get under the skin of those of us who have lived here all our lives (even when the times weren't as good as they are now).

To satisfy my own curiosity and put the issue to rest in MY OWN MIND, I called the DOT office in Minot this morning and asked the nice lady who answered the phone, what is the time limit for registering a vehicle from out of state in North Dakota - her answer was 30 days. I'm not going to post her name here, but if someone wants to call and see what answer they get - go for it, we can compare notes and see if everyone is getting the same answers.

Also, here is a link to some FAQ's from the NDDot website: ND Department of Transportation - Get Answers, which might be helpful to those who are moving here and actually have an interest in keeping themselves legal. There is no excuse for not knowing what the laws are regarding registration of your vehicle when you move to another state - it's up to you to find out. Pleading ignorance after you've been pulled over by LE is just ridiculous.
The link to the DOT will be most helpful to firsthand information. Thanks Norsk/Deutsch/Polska
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I do remember years ago seeing the front of semis with many license plates on their bumpers. That eventually was replaced with the IRP plates we have today. The stickers on the side of the trucks are the IFTA stickers used for fuel taxes between the states and you do quarterly filings regarding fuel and mileage.

Just think, IRP plates on cars along with IFTA would eliminate ever having to change plates depending on where you live. All we need now is all 4-wheeler owners to do quarterly filings and keep track of fuel purchases and mileage accrued in every state.

But in all seriousness, I was told by the Bismarck people at DOT that when I surrender my Illinois title and have by car titled in North Dakota that my Illinois plates become invalid and can not be renewed there anymore.
Ok, that makes sense. A lot of it is handled these days by permits and there is nothing the layperson would see. A couple years ago I had to haul some stuff up to Montana and I bought trip permits instead of long permits. Was cheaper, but not by much. I had to make 5 trips and paying individually, it came out cheaper. But if I had to make a 6th trip, it would have been the same as buying a long permit.

Several states require you to surrender plates now. But when I worked construction, we had to plate for every state that we drew wages in. I had a Wyoming Title, but registration in South Dakota, Wyoming and Montana.

It's a constantly changing thing anymore. Supposedly better for us.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:44 AM
 
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itsMeFred, I understand where you are coming from and I did the same thing when I first started working construction. I got away with it until they threw that warning tag on my windshield and then I plated.

But North Dakota has made it better with Temp Tags and truth me known, like somebody mentioned, tags and insurance are probably a lot cheaper to plate and insure than your home state.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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Hardly.

Tags are $90 for the year in Kansas, which kind of irked me because that same car was only $60, the year before, in Nebraska. And I don't know how insurance would compare at the moment, but I can say when I moved from Selfridge, ND to Haigler, NE a few years ago, our insurance agent changed, but our rates didn't.

More importantly, my husband can't re-plate my car in North Dakota. He doesn't have a physical address! So he would have to do this double registration thing. Which means he would pay in both Kansas AND North Dakota. And pay MORE in North Dakota than here at home where he actually gets real plates!
Now, that isn't to say we won't put the temporary thing in the window (however we are going to wait until we buy a different car since I'll be dogged if I'm going to get TWO of these things), we tend to be obnoxiously law-abiding in our house, actually.
But I can still see where there is going to be very low compliance on this.

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I got away with it until they threw that warning tag on my windshield and then I plated.
Which was precisely my point. This is a weird law. Most people have never heard of such a thing (at least not for personal vehicles as opposed to commercial ones) and this is the only way they're going to be able to get any sort of compliance.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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I think it is an effort on N.D. part to accomodate and remedy the "no street address" issues for some folks. You had mentioned that your hubby lives in his truck, sleeps in it, at the yard of his employer. Wondering if that address would suffice? if you wanted to do the regular resident tags. Others have no address options, so the effort on their behalf is a change made this year I believe re: the temporary non-resident tags.
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Western Nebraskansas
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No, the state would not consider the parking lot of the company office to be an address any more than they would WalMart's.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Minot, ND
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TBH they probably don't care. As long as a person can get mail at a location they should be all set. I got my Alaska license/residency by using a homeless shelter's address as I slept out in the woods. I preferred my arch rival, the squirrel, in my campsite who stole my sandwiches and occasionally taunted me with stare downs to belligerent drunks, snoring, and people who could never lay still after 4am. Just did it for one month then told my credit cards to use my MA address again. (I'm a stickler for keeping my financial records... have like 5 years worth of stubs, statements, etc.)

Alaska is also nice as they print out your license right there at the DMV and you walk out with it. Not sure how it is in ND.
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