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Old 06-26-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Let's see. North Dakota was close to becoming the first state to abolish property taxes and what do I read. They voting in favor of them because, well, they wanted to continue funding services like the police, firemen, streets and sanitation, any other bs that were fed to the people of the state. Keep in mind that no money you pay in taxes fund these things. You're only paying interest to bankers overseas and guess what---YOU WILL PAY FOREVER. That's right. That debt will never be paid in full. I thought we had the right to life, liberty, and PROPERTY. By paying property taxes, you're in essence paying a feudal lord to build on his property. It never becomes yours. Try refusing to pay taxes and see what happens to your home. I can't believe they fell for that leftist bull**** and yes, I will use that word. Do we no longer have anything between our legs? It's your God given right to own property. Who the hell brainwashed you in thinking otherwise?

 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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Let's see. North Dakota was close to becoming the first state to abolish property taxes and what do I read. They voting in favor of them because, well, they wanted to continue funding services like the police, firemen, streets and sanitation, any other bs that were fed to the people of the state. Keep in mind that no money you pay in taxes fund these things. You're only paying interest to bankers overseas and guess what---YOU WILL PAY FOREVER. That's right. That debt will never be paid in full. I thought we had the right to life, liberty, and PROPERTY. By paying property taxes, you're in essence paying a feudal lord to build on his property. It never becomes yours. Try refusing to pay taxes and see what happens to your home. I can't believe they fell for that leftist bull**** and yes, I will use that word. Do we no longer have anything between our legs? It's your God given right to own property. Who the hell brainwashed you in thinking otherwise?
LMAO Thanks man, I needed a good chuckle.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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LMAO Thanks man, I needed a good chuckle.

It was meant to be taken seriously. Unless of course you never want to own property.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Buffalo
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Property tax revenue is generally used for government administration and expenses for first responders such as law enforcement officers, firefighters and paramedics. It is also used to fund local courts. Property tax also helps pay for services including community programs, parks, civic centers, libraries and schools.
If it isn't property being taxed, something else will be.
As the saying goes there are 2 certainties in life: Death and Taxes.
Let go of the anger and go take a walk in the pretty park you pay for.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Let's see. North Dakota was close to becoming the first state to abolish property taxes and what do I read. They voting in favor of them because, well, they wanted to continue funding services like the police, firemen, streets and sanitation, any other bs that were fed to the people of the state. Keep in mind that no money you pay in taxes fund these things. You're only paying interest to bankers overseas and guess what---YOU WILL PAY FOREVER. That's right. That debt will never be paid in full. I thought we had the right to life, liberty, and PROPERTY. By paying property taxes, you're in essence paying a feudal lord to build on his property. It never becomes yours. Try refusing to pay taxes and see what happens to your home. I can't believe they fell for that leftist bull**** and yes, I will use that word. Do we no longer have anything between our legs? It's your God given right to own property. Who the hell brainwashed you in thinking otherwise?
takes stupid to know stupid & post stupid
Yep, we sure don't need any of them municipal, county and state services for sure. We can become the Wild West and "police" ourselves
We can get a garden house to put out fires
And we sure don't need trash pick up, we'll just burn it in our yard
And repairing streets? That's what 4 wheel drive is for
 
Old 06-26-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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Default other taxes

So sales tax and income tax aren't enough? So you're happy with the fact that you never really own anything? You're just repeating liberal nonsense that somehow our property taxes pay for al of these when in fact they don't. Wow, it's a good thing I'm old enough to the point that I'll probably be dead when America does become a socialist paradise.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: MT
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Surprised at this and surprised that ND voted in sales tax, by the way, how much is it, does it vary by county?

Once a state
implements a sales tax, it never goes down, only up. Suppose you can say the same is true with p/p tax...

Montana = still no sales tax. I hate sales tax, what a hassle.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 09:03 PM
 
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Surprised at this and surprised that ND voted in sales tax, by the way, how much is it, does it vary by county?

Once a state
implements a sales tax, it never goes down, only up. Suppose you can say the same is true with p/p tax...

Montana = still no sales tax. I hate sales tax, what a hassle.
We've had sales tax since Rover was a pup. 5% state wide. There are several counties and cities that tack some on. Montana pays for it's lack of sales tax, believe me. I do like slipping over to Sidney and not having to pay it though.
As for property tax, we do get breaks on it here and there. It looks like we're going to get more out here in the western part of the state since our appraised values have gone through the roof due to the oil boom.
But then us out here in the wilds of Nordakotia are widely known for our liberalism and socialist bent. Bwaahaahaa.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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Let's see. North Dakota was close to becoming the first state to abolish property taxes and what do I read. They voting in favor of them because, well, they wanted to continue funding services like the police, firemen, streets and sanitation, any other bs that were fed to the people of the state. Keep in mind that no money you pay in taxes fund these things. You're only paying interest to bankers overseas and guess what---YOU WILL PAY FOREVER. That's right. That debt will never be paid in full. I thought we had the right to life, liberty, and PROPERTY. By paying property taxes, you're in essence paying a feudal lord to build on his property. It never becomes yours. Try refusing to pay taxes and see what happens to your home. I can't believe they fell for that leftist bull**** and yes, I will use that word. Do we no longer have anything between our legs? It's your God given right to own property. Who the hell brainwashed you in thinking otherwise?
FYI
And all kidding aside - From the state tax commissioners website

"All real property, unless specifically exempted, is subject to property tax. The tax is due January 1 of each year following the year of assessment and is payable without penalty until March 1. A 5% discount is allowed for taxes paid in full by February 15. A mobile home used as a residence or business is subject to tax if it is 27 or more feet long or is attached to utility services. The tax is due January 10 of the year of assessment or ten days after the home is purchased or first moved into this state. A 5% discount is allowed for taxes paid in full by February 15 or within 30 days after the mobile home is purchased or moved into this state. The county determines and collects real property and mobile home taxes and distributes the revenue to the county, cities, townships, school districts, and other taxing districts."

The underlined entities can also tack on a mill levy. I work for a municipality, and am involved with several townships and county govt so I can tell you that we do receive this funding. This is the only reason that we have any semblance of roads, schools, utilities, etc in this part of the state. The vast majority of our population lives in the eastern part and the only time they give a rat's nether region about us is when they draw a mule deer or elk tag so we really can't count on the state govt to fully fund services. I happen to live in one of the more sparsely populated and largest counties in the state and most of the residents know the local officials very well. Rest assured they won't get reelected if we don't like their decisions. Not that most of them want to very bad anyway. Hateful job and doesn't pay well. The rest of the state is lovin' us right now because of the oil revenue but this too shall pass. Hope that clears things up a little. Cinj out - and still laughing
 
Old 06-27-2012, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Minot, ND
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Wow! What a thread. I never really did believe that there were ignorant people, but to believe that property taxes pay bankers overseas, that is a good one. Apparently, you do not sit with any city or council meetings to find ways to budget the schools, roads, ambulances, etc. I was a volunteer EMT for 9 years, and the only funding was the taxes to pay for my training. Town did not have enough tax money to pay for a full time EMT or Paramedic. MrGerardo, how do you propose the roads to be kept up, the ambulance, schools, and etc? The people who put in this proposal have always been whiners, but they don't leave the state.
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