Proposed Coal Mining Museum: Museum site doubt expressed (Scranton, Wilkes-Barre: buying, tax)

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by coalboy

'Shat'.... damn, I do love that word,,, kinda biblical, but wait, Paul Simon once used it in a song in the 'Sixties'

"BLESS-ED ARE THE SPAT UPON
SHAT UPON...'

Tonight when I bring my Golden Retriever back from his walk, I will say to my beautiful wife...
Te Amo, mi espousa....Myles shat t'night!

LOLOL

That was my way of saying a naughty word and getting it through the CD filter.

[toobusytoday]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

Museum site doubt expressed | The Times Leader, Wilkes-Barre, PA



WILKES-BARRE – Todd Vonderheid is supportive of bringing an Anthracite Miners Museum to the city – but only of the concept, not the proposed site.

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Burke bristled at the suggestion that the old bank building isn’t the best site for his museum. He said suggesting an alternative site is out of the question.

“I’ll say this much: If we don’t get that building, there will be no Anthracite Miners Museum,” Burke said from his New Jersey home. “It’s that simple.”



What do you think of the proposed museum? The site?

What about Burke's assertion that it's the old bank building or nothing?

C'mon people, try to stay on-topic please....

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by toobusytoday

C'mon people, try to stay on-topic please....

I'm surprised you haven't just resorted to bashing your head off a doorframe yet trying to reign everyone in! LOL!

[CoalCityTrash]

I think the Huber Breaker in Wilkes-Barre is the best place for an anthracite museum. It's the largest of it's kind in the entire world & it is the one and only remaining coal breaker in all of NEPA. If I'm not mistaken, there are actually plans in motion to designate the site as a museum.

[warren zee]

Originally Posted by CoalCityTrash

I think the Huber Breaker in Wilkes-Barre is the best place for an anthracite museum. It's the largest of it's kind in the entire world & it is the one and only remaining coal breaker in all of NEPA. If I'm not mistaken, there are actually plans in motion to designate the site as a museum.

I think the Huber Breaker would be a good place also.
Instead of arguing about where to have an Anthracite coal museum, why don't we all agree that we should have an Anthracite Coal Museum.

[nepaexpat]

I thought there was a coal museum in NEPA.

[thecoalman]

First thing to understand is there are different fields of anthracite. The northern filed is primarily the Scranton Wilkes Barre area. Now that I think about it, it would have made for interesting observation in the topic about what compromises the Wyoming Valley because this field of coal pretty much mimics the Wyoming Valley and Scranton area. Below this is the southern field and others which is centered on the Pottsville area.



If you just want to stick to the Scranton/W-B area there is one museum in Scranton which also includes the Lackawanna mine tour The primary draw there is they take you into a mine which is pretty cool if you have never been in a mine. I'd recommend it for anyone. The museum itself is a fair size but it's really not something you could compare to what the Huber could be. There is simply nothing that beats being able to show the real deal and as the Huber is the last breaker in this area of it's time. Once it's gone, it's gone.

These are the mezie cones which is used to separate rock from the coal, when it was built there was nine large ones as depicted here and two slightly smaller ones. They have a solotion of water and magnetite which is spun in cyclone action, this increases the specific gravity of the water allowing the coal to float. The rock sinks because it is much heavier. Note the size of the man, the diameter of the cone is nearly 10 feet across. How do you put this in museum? Moreso certainly 10 of them lined up would make a bigger impression.

[jimazee]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

(Deleted the great diagrams...)

If you just want to stick to the Scranton/W-B area there is one museum in Scranton which also includes the Lackawanna mine tour The primary draw there is they take you into a mine which is pretty cool if you have never been in a mine. I'd recommend it for anyone. The museum itself is a fair size but it's really not something you could compare to what the Huber could be. There is simply nothing that beats being able to show the real deal and as the Huber is the last breaker in this area of it's time. Once it's gone, it's gone.

These are the mezie cones which is used to separate rock from the coal, when it was built there was nine large ones as depicted here and two slightly smaller ones. They have a solotion of water and magnetite which is spun in cyclone action, this increases the specific gravity of the water allowing the coal to float. The rock sinks because it is much heavier. Note the size of the man, the diameter of the cone is nearly 10 feet across. How do you put this in museum? Moreso certainly 10 of them lined up would make a bigger impression.

It sure looks impractical to duplicate this in any conventional building, let alone the 'total experience' of the size and other technical aspects of the breakers that once dominated the landscape of this area. It would be great if this breaker could be preserved and eventually refurbished enough to allow visitors and 'tours' etc. ("Great idea"...but...) I haven't seen it up close but know that this can be a VERY costly effort.

As far as two museums, why not? Together, with the small but excellent one at McDade Park with the adjacent coal mine tour, combined with the trains at Steamtown, they would just provide a better travel draw to NEPA in general. ("Tourists" would regard NEPA as a destination for a weekend, an add-on to a college visit, or a stopover on a longer trip. They hardly make the same distinction between Scranton and Wilkes-Barre that many locals do.)

If W-B had something like this to offer, even Eckley Village becomes a little 'closer' as part of the overall 'attraction'.

Disclaimer....I am not commenting on the costs and feasibility, just 'the dream', and its potential.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by jimazee

I haven't seen it up close but know that this can be a VERY costly effort.

Yes it would be huge amount and that's the primary issue especially with the way things are now. On the other hand it's last chance to save one out of hundreds that once existed.

[CoalCityTrash]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

First thing to understand is there are different fields of anthracite. The northern filed is primarily the Scranton Wilkes Barre area. Now that I think about it, it would have made for interesting observation in the topic about what compromises the Wyoming Valley because this field of coal pretty much mimics the Wyoming Valley and Scranton area. Below this is the southern field and others which is centered on the Pottsville area.



If you just want to stick to the Scranton/W-B area there is one museum in Scranton which also includes the Lackawanna mine tour The primary draw there is they take you into a mine which is pretty cool if you have never been in a mine. I'd recommend it for anyone. The museum itself is a fair size but it's really not something you could compare to what the Huber could be. There is simply nothing that beats being able to show the real deal and as the Huber is the last breaker in this area of it's time. Once it's gone, it's gone.

These are the mezie cones which is used to separate rock from the coal, when it was built there was nine large ones as depicted here and two slightly smaller ones. They have a solotion of water and magnetite which is spun in cyclone action, this increases the specific gravity of the water allowing the coal to float. The rock sinks because it is much heavier. Note the size of the man, the diameter of the cone is nearly 10 feet across. How do you put this in museum? Moreso certainly 10 of them lined up would make a bigger impression.

It's cool that Scranton has that, but I HATE Scranton!!!!!! They're like the brother who got a free scholarship to law school when you're still stuck working at McDonald's. Furthermore, Scranton's got a lot to do & nobody to do it. Wilkes-Barre is a 3rd the land size with just about the same size population & less than half the attractions & excitement. I don't mean to downtalk anybody here, but it just seems like Wilkes-Barre has a more homey feel. People are more polite. When I go to Scranton, all I see is virtually empty streets with one or two people giving me dirty looks. Also, Wilkes-Barre is an extremely local-history-oriented place & I'm not sure I could say the same for Scranton. I just think we definitely need more places to celebrate our rich heritage here. Wilkes-Barre is very important in many areas of history & many people don't even know about it.