Sam will stand trial according to today's rag

[to570717]

Ny rangers, saying something in the heat of the moment is not an excuse. he was adressing council therefor it was directed at particular people.

He comes across as a know it all. He infact is very unaware of the things he speaks about. He has been here for just a year. Does he pay taxes, is he a home owner. Does he involve himself in any community programes that better the community in which he is soooo very critical.

I hope he doesn't do jail time because that does not fit the crime, however i think he should apologize, do some community service and change his behavior when adressing council.

[weluvpa]

I agree about the comment that Sam made but I strongly disagree about THOSE who have shaped the area. Say what you want I grew up around and in with these people and their kids. I went to prep with most of them and they were full of Sh&t then and they are full of it now. They have shaped nothing, the city is the furthest that it has ever been in debt and we have a long road to climb to get out it. These same people have stacked city hall and the cities authorities with non-qualified new hires to satisfy family obligations, they have robbed us blind and left nothing to show for it. Shaped the area, how or who are you refering to, the Lynetts, Casey's, Doherty's. Come on even you know better than that, these guys have been stealing from us for decades and now with the help of the net and some of us who are not afraid to call it like we see it, they have a increasingly harder time hiding it and they do not like it.

Sam is a homeowner and he has been to many functions to help raise money for different civic projects here in the city, he is a godd man and he has the right to his opinion and yes he does pay taxes. Sam is not going to speak out unless he himself is involved in the city in many respects.

[to570717]

When i say shaped i don't exactly mean shaped like a sculpture. I just mean shaped not good not bad just shaped. and yes, he does go after the names he see's as power brokers in the area. Same ones you just named.

I was just curious as to sam's real objective. Why would someone be sooo desperatly against the people running a town and decide to stay after just moving here. I dont know his family situations so i will guess he is here for family.

My only real point i am trying to make is there are ways to get your point across. Some of the speakers do a great job at converying their dissapointment witht he city. Some completly work against the forward momentum other speakers initiate. Fay, Sam, these peopel go up and yell and chastise and have no sence of decorum. Why not show cicility. I know what you may say "Judy et al treat us like dogs so they dont deserve to be trated with respect" Sometimes the best way to provoke a person is to show them respect and use candor to appear as the bigger man opr woman. Appear to be the more civilized in the situation.

These guys are the voice of the anti doherty crowd. Like it or not their antics reflect on all those critical of the admin.

[NYRangers 2008]

Originally Posted by to570717

also, i too see him as a boderline personality who is need of some counciling. He shows a lot of the warning signs, as do a lot of the speakers. Look up delusions of self worth and importance. As i think of it now, most of the Admin suffers from the same thing. They are administrators in a tiny city in NEPA> not a very big deal.

HAHA i just had a breakthrough. the Admin and the lod are like superman and bizzaro superman. Fighting each other but both have the same attributes. Cocky, beligerant, arrogant and self righteous.

You might be on to something here. So who is Lois Lane and Lex Luther? LOL

[CHS89]

Originally Posted by weluvpa

Sam said it but that is nothing compared to the oppressive ways that Judy runs those meetings. This will blow up in her face at the level of the supreme court. If Sam looses he will appeal all the way there. This is just s typical way to shut down free speech and the free flow of info from the podium. In front of a real judge out of this area it would have never made it this far. Also one must remember that Judy is not a part of the chain of command in the police dept and she is a civilian, there for she cannot order a police officer to do anything at all. This is where it will blow right up in her face, illegally using powers that she is not allowed to use. September should be interesting to say the least.

Sorry for the bump of an old thread, but I saw that he took a plea bargain and was sentenced to ARD.

How is that "blowing up in her face"? It can't even be appealed. All that rhetoric for this??

Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.....

[ScranBarre]

Don't worry. When Dan's mayor he'll fix everything that ails Lackawanna and Luzerne Counties.