"It's not fracking's fault", study says - its the drillers! (Wyoming: tax, live)

[sp2007]

At first I thought this article was going to be pro-drilling, then I kept reading...

Cosmic Log - It's not fracking's fault, study says

Hey look, South Montrose!

[jtab4994]

I knew it would be anti-fracking when I saw msnbc.com in the link!

Frack on brother, frack on...

[sp2007]

Frack on? You must have missed the part where the MSNBC article said the contamination is coming from improper fracking by the drillers.

But go ahead, keep believing what you will.

[thecoalman]

Anyone near the Dimmock area on here? They referenced the "water on fire" a few times in that report and it's always mentioned in everyone of these articles as it certainly makes for sensational news reporting.

I have an Uncle in that area and know a few other people that lived near there, everyone of them has told me this was a problem before the fracking. It should also be noted this is only area in the entire country where water that catches fire has happened with fracking nearby. At most what you have is a situation where mans activities has increased what is a natural occurrence.

[nepaexpat]

Everytime I hear "frack" or "fracking" I think of the old 70's Battlestar Galactica. They used "frack" in lieu of...well you know.

[sp2007]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

Anyone near the Dimmock area on here? They referenced the "water on fire" a few times in that report and it's always mentioned in everyone of these articles as it certainly makes for sensational news reporting.

I have an Uncle in that area and know a few other people that lived near there, everyone of them has told me this was a problem before the fracking. It should also be noted this is only area in the entire country where water that catches fire has happened with fracking nearby. At most what you have is a situation where mans activities has increased what is a natural occurrence.

I think you spread this misinformation before on CD. I grew up near Dimock and you never could catch the water on fire. I have no idea who you were talking to, but you either misunderstood them or they were talking about some other place.

That area of Susquehanna was until recently a very rural and healthy area. Now a lot of the smaller roads are falling apart and the areas of drilling are a blight in a normally wooded areas.

At the very least, the gov't should tax something on these drilling companies so they can maintain the roads and other infrastructure. At thats a bare-minimum need.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by sp2007

I think you spread this misinformation before on CD.

It's even been mentioned in the newspaper years ago. As I've said my knowledge is from people that have lived near there so I'll ask again anyone live near there?

FYI I'm actually quite familiar with Dimock, Montose or even all the way to the NY border and all the roads in between because I spent years driving on them delivering coal. I probably know Wyoming and Susquehanna counties better than the people that live there. I haven't been up there in years, I'll have to take a ride around to see what condition they are in. I know when this all started the gas companies were investing a lot of money into infrastructure simply because they had too.

[weluvpa]

The only people defending this environmental and regional nightmare are those that are profiting from it or those that don't really see what has been happening.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by weluvpa

The only people defending this environmental and regional nightmare are those that are profiting from it or those that don't really see what has been happening.

Everyone in the nation is profiting from this, have you seen what the cost of natural gas is lately?

Here's the trouble I have, you're going to have environmentalists on one side of the issue that want to stop this by all means possible. The water on fire is prime example because it's mentioned or even the focus of most articles I read. Even if it were caused by the drilling it's the only area in the country it has occurred. They focus on this at the start of the article but do you think that is a little biased when the report they are citing says this:

Among the other findings:
Natural gas found in water wells within some shale gas areas, such as the Marcellus Shale, can be traced to natural sources. The report said the gas was probably present before the onset of shale gas operations.

And this:

The researchers concluded that many of the reports of contamination can be traced to above-ground spills or other mishandling of the wastewater, Groat said. Other causes of the contamination include underground casing failures or poor cement jobs. "These problems are not unique to hydraulic fracturing," Groat said in a news release.

The major issue with the wastewater is that it's saline.

[jtab4994]

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