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[I LOVE PA!]

I once heard of a case on L.I. where a pit bull chewed the face off a little boy so bad that the EMT's could not give him mouth to mouth when they responded to the call. The dog had always been harmless and good around children. The owner was baby sitting the child.

[Mom2Five]

I can't speak for the way anyone raises their dogs, no matter what breed it is. I know my dogs.

A pom also killed a baby - should we be afraid?

Reading through the previous posts though, I can tell you people don't have any real experience and have had little to no exposure to these dogs. You're making assumptions and condemnation based on "what you've heard". Is that how you go through life? Just get your info from rumors and let's not forget the wonderful media, and that's it?

For myself, I like to form my opinions based on MY OWN experiences. I've handled well over 100 pit bull dogs. All rescued dogs, with various histories from total abuse to "just" being abandoned. And I have never once been threatened or harmed. I can't say the same for the small breeds I've handled, even the ones that have been well loved. I've been bitten only by small dogs. So, that is MY experience and MY knowledge, which I EARNED.

[Summering]

Originally Posted by I LOVE PA!

I once heard of a case on L.I. where a pit bull chewed the face off a little boy so bad that the EMT's could not give him mouth to mouth when they responded to the call. The dog had always been harmless and good around children. The owner was baby sitting the child.

Yes, I read that too. That was a sad story. Poor little child.
The reasons for the fear of Pit Bulls comes from the Media of course.
Way too many stories over the years. People who said how wonderful
their dog was, and yet it bit a child to death. So many owners who were
unaware of the sudden snapping, that apparently happens unexpectedly.
Many times I have looked at these dogs at the end of one of the attacks, behind a fence, looking mild and innocent..( there is decades of history here)
I felt sad knowing its fate. But, there is something wrong with a breed that makes headlines way too often. Its a sad fact, but the facts are out there.
Believe me, most states would be far stricter then Pa., concerning your dogs.
PS A vet did mention that Poms are quick and snap........also.

[Mom2Five]

Originally Posted by Summering

Yes, I read that too. That was a sad story. Poor little child.
The reasons for the fear of Pit Bulls comes from the Media of course.
Way too many stories over the years. People who said how wonderful
their dog was, and yet it bit a child to death. So many owners who were
unaware of the sudden snapping, that apparently happens unexpectedly.
Many times I have looked at these dogs at the end of one of the attacks, behind a fence, looking mild and innocent..( there is decades of history here)
I felt sad knowing its fate. But, there is something wrong with a breed that makes headlines way too often. Its a sad fact, but the facts are out there.
But, there is something wrong with a breed that makes headlines way too often.
Believe me, most states would be far stricter then Pa., concerning your dogs
PS A vet did mention that Poms are quick and snap........also.

Are you saying they "snap"? Because if that's what you're saying, I'm sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

You have seen so many after these attacks...how, are you there at all of them?

Back your post up with some FACTS. About the only factual detail I see in it is a reference to the media hysteria and hype.

"But, there is something wrong with a breed that makes headlines way too often."

Actually, there is something wrong with people who think they have the right to tell other people what breed of animal they're allowed to own. There's something wrong with people who get their only information from reading headlines and never delve any deeper into the issue to find out the truth about it.

"Believe me, most states would be far stricter then Pa., concerning your dogs"

Do NOT deign to tell me about MY dogs.

There are states that have make sense dangerous dog ordinances. Including the one I live and guess where else - PA. The owner is held responsible for the actions of the DOG - not the "pit bull" or the "rottweiler" or "other breed". Because as anyone with half a brain and even a little knowledge about canines knows - any dog can bite, and any dog can kill.

Even a pom.

Some of you are very opinionated about a topic that you have little factual knowledge of - but FYI, I rec'd many DM's from your neighbors in support of my POV. Don't blame the breed, blame the deed.

[Summering]

I don't come on here to argue with anyone.
Own all of the dogs you want. Far be it from me to tell you not too.
You love them, then thats good for you. So be it.
As far as facts. I'm not going back as far as 40 years of reading the NY Post or the NY Daily News and other local papers, in other locations, to give you facts you don't want to hear. I do not have to "see" living and in live color, to believe.
I know personally a beagle who died after he came onto the Aunts property and was attacked.
I am a dog lover. I'd go out on a highway to save your dog if he ever got free........pit bull or not.
I have knowledge gained over many years of watching the News each night and reading a paper each day. So yes, knowledge I have.
Enjoy your dogs with all your heart, as we enjoy our own little fellows.
Defend them to your home insurance salesman, not me...........

[Summering]

Originally Posted by I LOVE PA!

I once heard of a case on L.I. where a pit bull chewed the face off a little boy so bad that the EMT's could not give him mouth to mouth when they responded to the call. The dog had always been harmless and good around children. The owner was baby sitting the child.

Quick information about laws and attacks posted .........on this law site
http://www.dog-bite-law-center.com/p...l_attacks.html

[Mom2Five]

Originally Posted by Summering

I don't come on here to argue with anyone.
Own all of the dogs you want. Far be it from me to tell you not too.
You love them, then thats good for you. So be it.
As far as facts. I'm not going back as far as 40 years of reading the NY Post or the NY Daily News and other local papers, in other locations, to give you facts you don't want to hear. I do not have to "see" living and in live color, to believe.
I know personally a beagle who died after he came onto the Aunts property and was attacked.
I am a dog lover. I'd go out on a highway to save your dog if he ever got free........pit bull or not.
I have knowledge gained over many years of watching the News each night and reading a paper each day. So yes, knowledge I have.
Enjoy your dogs with all your heart, as we enjoy our own little fellows.
Defend them to your home insurance salesman, not me...........

I'm not here to argue either, but if you state something that's untrue you should expect to be called on it. And you've proven my point in your post - all of your information is taken from the headlines, from news reports. My information is from personal experience.

You said "years of history", you also said you have personally seen these dogs after "attacks" and implied that this was numerous times. I asked you about that, and you tell me you would need to go through 40 years of newpapers to back up what you said. So, obviously, you didn't witness these dogs, there is no "years of history" and you have no factual information.

And, fyi, my insurance company does not breed discriminate and has no plans to.

[Mom2Five]

Originally Posted by Summering

Quick information about laws and attacks posted .........on this law site
Pit Bull Attacks: Dog Bite Law Center

Oh, I can show you loads of biased information. And you can read more info about that report and it's INACCURACIES here:

Punish the Deed, not the Breed!

Can you really id a "pit bull" from other similarly built dogs? Probably not. Here, why don't you see if you can:

findpitbull_v4

That is an attorney site, selling a service. AGAIN, Please try to get REAL info, not info put together to sell something whether it's a headline or legal services!!!!

Why are you willing to have someone else do your thinking for you and to have someone else form your opinions. You are perfectly capable of reading and understanding on your own and forming your own EDUCATED opinion. That is all I ask people to do, get the real facts and form your own opinion.

Want to read? Here you go:
Pet PitBull - Positive Press
Punish the Deed, not the Breed!
Punish the Deed, not the Breed! (broken link)

There's lots more similar links and they're as easy to find as the garbage links...for anyone that cares to look.

Here's a nice very recent story, being talked about over in Pets:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/dogs/...ml#post1844336

[I LOVE PA!]

Originally Posted by Summering

I don't come on here to argue with anyone.
Own all of the dogs you want. Far be it from me to tell you not too.
You love them, then thats good for you. So be it.
As far as facts. I'm not going back as far as 40 years of reading the NY Post or the NY Daily News and other local papers, in other locations, to give you facts you don't want to hear. I do not have to "see" living and in live color, to believe.
I know personally a beagle who died after he came onto the Aunts property and was attacked.
I am a dog lover. I'd go out on a highway to save your dog if he ever got free........pit bull or not.
I have knowledge gained over many years of watching the News each night and reading a paper each day. So yes, knowledge I have.
Enjoy your dogs with all your heart, as we enjoy our own little fellows.
Defend them to your home insurance salesman, not me...........

My sentiments exactly!

[Summering]

You know what.............I have a ton of stories too........
But, I am really not going to argue. ( just google your own breed ,and find out for your own self.......I already know........as I stated......from years of stories, news, and pictures. In living color on the nightly news. As most of us have seen. I could have posted many, horror stories.........but I see it is very useless and a waste of my time.
You told me you wanted facts, then you don't want facts.........
Your positive press is someone else forming your opinions too!
Someone else is doing your thinking I see.
You want answers, but answers are not good enough.
I remain true to my statements and will not comment any longer on the issue.
If they are so grand you shouldn't have to defend them. FYI.......Here in my area of Pa they ask the breed of your dogs and bill accordinglly.
Just put me on Ignor please..............and Now back to Mr Goodman and his questions.
Thank you Love Pa...........