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Old 04-29-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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If you work at a hospital now and have a good work history, try Geisinger. They are one of the top employers in the region. I agree that Dallas and Wyoming Area are your best bets for school districts. I'll add Crestwood and Abington Heights to the list as well.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Wilkes-Barre Area School District. While my children have been very lucky with their teachers there are a decent amount that should not be in the profession. The main problem with the district is the school board and administration though.

Searching for housing with pets - Don't mention it until you look at the house and the landlords meet you in person. Once you establish a good repertoire with people here they are much more likely to cut you some slack on the rules.

Good luck!
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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I used to live in Middletown CT on the Cromwell border. I'm only slightly familiar with Vernon (as in, I've been there, but not really to visit.. just driving around), but I think you'll be fine in NEPA. Most of CT is very similar (with the obvious exception of Fairfield county), just more condensed. NEPA is really large. You can fit the entire state of CT within the unofficial boundaries.

All that said, there are plenty of hospitals to work in. The job market is worse here than it is in Hartford (by a good margin), but the people and weather are very similar.

NEPA schools aren't great in general compared to, say, Southeastern PA or New Jersey on the whole, but Dallas should prepare your daughter for a college career. Just remember that many people in the area are more or less conditioned to stay here forever, so expect them to push more toward staying in Kings/Wilkes/PSU Lehman instead of branching out, if that's a concern for you. I've read a ton of university reviews and, aside from Scranton U, they're not exactly glowing. For student reviews, check out Wilkes, King's, Scranton -- look at the "would return" pie chart, it says a lot about a school. I personally started at PSU Lehman (basically like 2nd High School) and ended up going to school in a different state.

Since she's a freshman, it should be easier for her to come into a new school district. I did the same when I was a freshman (from Tunkhannock Area in NEPA to Lee County in Southwestern Georgia). The cliques from middle school tend to break up a bit in the transition as people take more varied classes.

Good luck!
I personally know several bright young recent graduates of the Wilkes-Barre Area School District who've gone on to quite prestigious schools like Hofstra, Notre Dame, Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, US Military Academy, Northwestern University and Lafayette.

Forgive me if I take the Students Review site with a grain of salt what with the "ugliest girls" category and all.
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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Much of college is not the academics, but the experience and social connections you gain there. Any student can do fine with any degree if they work hard, but you're still missing out if you basically stay at home for it.
What is the college experience and why can one not achieve this at a hometown school?
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:42 PM
 
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I never said anything about parties and big games, but if you REALLY believe your kids won't do whatever they are going to do just because they commute to college, you're sadly mistaken.

The experience is being on your own, getting a chance to be an adult without someone prying or hovering over your shoulder. Most people take out loans for school, and if you're dumb enough to waste your own money (and tens of thousands of it) just to party, you deserve the crippling debt and lack of real world experience you're going to get.

I went to a school that doesn't even have sports and worked my way through. It was great being away from home and having that responsibility to myself. Nay say all you want.
All of that can be experienced after college too.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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We lived there for a few years. In terms of schools, really none were up to the standards of the parts of Connecticut that I'm familiar with, or Long Island's North Shore.

The best high schools are similar to what would be thought of as a mediocre suburban NY NJ Connecticut school.

We sent them to Holy Redeemer HS while we lived there, even though neither of us are Catholics.

Of my son's graduating class, most went to King's or Luzerne Community. They were bright kids, it's just not a tradition in the area to "go away to college".

They got new cars for graduation. That was the big thing.

One graduate went to Harvard and others to St. Joseph in Philadelphia and Holy Cross.

The OP would probably like Dallas. It has a sort on New England-North Shore LI feeling.

Kingston is pretty, but we were not impressed with Wyoming Valley West HS.

I am a huge proponent of going away to college. Why? I didn't. I opted for the car and graduated from local Hofstra University.

A fine school, but I missed out on so much. You never get those years back.

There is no other time to have that particular experience.
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Old 04-30-2014, 07:43 PM
 
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We lived there for a few years. In terms of schools, really none were up to the standards of the parts of Connecticut that I'm familiar with, or Long Island's North Shore.

The best high schools are similar to what would be thought of as a mediocre suburban NY NJ Connecticut school.

We sent them to Holy Redeemer HS while we lived there, even though neither of us are Catholics.

Of my son's graduating class, most went to King's or Luzerne Community. They were bright kids, it's just not a tradition in the area to "go away to college".

They got new cars for graduation. That was the big thing.

One graduate went to Harvard and others to St. Joseph in Philadelphia and Holy Cross.

The OP would probably like Dallas. It has a sort on New England-North Shore LI feeling.

Kingston is pretty, but we were not impressed with Wyoming Valley West HS.

I am a huge proponent of going away to college. Why? I didn't. I opted for the car and graduated from local Hofstra University.

A fine school, but I missed out on so much. You never get those years back.

There is no other time to have that particular experience.
Life is short and no person ever experiences all that life has to offer. Its just that simple. We have to choose what we want and prioritize those choices.

You can have the young adult on one's own experience after college. It won't be just like college but who cares? That is not the end all and be all of maturing experiences.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Hanover , Virginia
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The difference is that getting the college experience away from home is being paid for. You're not going to have the same experiences after college as you would during college. The age groups totally change, you've already met the people you are going to be networking with to start, and usually you'll already have a job lined up.

After college, people work on buying a home, getting married, having kids, moving for work. It's just a totally different stage of life.

We all know random people who have gone off to schools outside of NEPA (you're taking to one), but it doesn't make it any less true that most people do NOT do that.

The other guy who mentioned NEPA's best being NY/NJ's middling is absolutely right. Whether you agree with the folks who live in the big money areas or not, school is absolutely no joke. When I was in high school in Tunkhannock, purple thought it was "cool" to be stupid, fail, struggle to get by. Granted, Tunkhannock is average for the area, but there are only 3 or 4 school districts that really stand above that. The attitude instilled in students is generally not a positive one.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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I personally know several bright young recent graduates of the Wilkes-Barre Area School District who've gone on to quite prestigious schools like Hofstra, Notre Dame, Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, US Military Academy, Northwestern University and Lafayette.

Forgive me if I take the Students Review site with a grain of salt what with the "ugliest girls" category and all.

I know of more who went locally, then dropped out.

In fact all of my son's my son's friends who went to college locally, have since dropped out.

Our son, who was raised to go away to college; even began to express a desire to commute.

We did not permit that. He's on the Dean's List and doing very well. I will not say where, because there are some crazy people out there. It isn't where you thought.

Maggs you didn't go away to college and neither did I. I want better for my children. Not worse. And, not the same.

Yes. Hofstra is a good college. However, if you live 15 minutes away from a good college, you learn less.

Other than the University of Scranton, there is no college in NEPA that is of the status of Hofstra.

There is no secular college there that makes "The Fisk Guide".

You can only go away to college once. I missed that chance. My children will not.
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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We can agree to disagree. Some people just can't go away to college for various reasons. I do not think one's education is made or broken on the distance they travel to school.

Realistically no one can do everything life has to offer. You do what you can and do the best you can. Deal with it and move on. This whole argument smacks of #firstworldproblems.
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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We can agree to disagree. Some people just can't go away to college for various reasons. I do not think one's education is made or broken on the distance they travel to school.

Realistically no one can do everything life has to offer. You do what you can and do the best you can. Deal with it and move on. This whole argument smacks of #firstworldproblems.
A few years ago the graduation rate from our local NCC was published. It was only about 14%. The college did argue that many transferred to other colleges and universities. I do think that community colleges push the easy of education to those that might not be ready to make the commitment. It does not appeal to me that our local community college pushes the fact that it trains dealers for the local casino.

There was also a recent news/editorial program that I caught a piece of on college athletics. They claimed that many of our schools have dropped their standards to get 'quality' athletics. I did not see the whole program; but I am interested if that is the case?
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