Political/Off-Topic sticky chat thread (Scranton, Republic: military, safe, health)

[NYRangers 2008]

"This is the same person who spent a decade with her husband campaigning for NAFTA, and now goes around saying she's opposed to NAFTA," Obama said, referring to the North American Free Trade Agreement, which is widely unpopular among blue-collar voters.

"What I was saying is that when economic hardship hits in these communities, what people have is they've got family, they've got their faith, they've got the traditions that have been passed onto them from generation to generation," Obama said at the forum, which was televised on CNN. "Those aren't bad things. That's what they have left."
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These are statements Obama made this weekend after his initial statement a few days ago about small town America. The point is Hillary is no better. She can't relate to blue-collar middle class Americans when she and her husband have raked in $109 million in 9 years. Who is this woman kidding? She may try to trick the other sheep, but she won't pull the wool over my eyes. And once again she's waffling about NAFTA as Obama pointed out. I'm not falling for her
rhetoric and I hope she doesn't get the nomination. And the way Doherty follows her around like a puppy dog is sickening.

[The Commish]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

Wow what an elitist scum Barack Obama is.... he's sunk. He claims that people in small town PA and other states are clinging to guns and religion because we're depressed about the rust belt economy

He said that some do.

And it's true.

[weluvpa]

I think its funny and sad that gas will over $4.00 by memorial day and that Exxon posted over $40,000,000,000 in profits last year....That was the single largest profit in one year for a American owned company in HISTORY!!!!!!!!

Bush's answer......Lets start drilling in ANWR... Sure instaed of regulating these companies and their record breaking profits we should go and destroy the last remaining Arctic wildlife and wilderness area for more oil.......

I can't wait till he is gone, anyone would be a better president. Actually my 9yr old should run, it would be an improvement.

[NYRangers 2008]

Originally Posted by weluvpa

I think its funny and sad that gas will over $4.00 by memorial day and that Exxon posted over $40,000,000,000 in profits last year....That was the single largest profit in one year for a American owned company in HISTORY!!!!!!!!

Bush's answer......Lets start drilling in ANWR... Sure instaed of regulating these companies and their record breaking profits we should go and destroy the last remaining Arctic wildlife and wilderness area for more oil.......

I can't wait till he is gone, anyone would be a better president. Actually my 9yr old should run, it would be an improvement.

Agreed Dan. I just don't think Hillary will be any better. I'm not so sure about Obama either, but I think he's the lesser of the two evils.

[weluvpa]

Donald Duck for prez.

[NYRangers 2008]

Originally Posted by weluvpa

Donald Duck for prez.

And Goofy as his running mate for Vice-President.

[SteelCityRising]

Dan Hubbard for president? (Or have you not the hubris?!)

[The Commish]

Originally Posted by NYRangers 2008

I'm not so sure about Obama either, but I think he's the lesser of the two evils.

Ah, an "independent."

What I like to call the "mushy middle." A lot of these people tend to vote on things like how Gore sighs too much, how Bush sounds "like a regular guy," and how Kerry "windsurfs.... must be an elitist!" That said, there have been huge substantive differences between Bush and Gore, Bush and Kerry, and now McCain and Obama. If you don't believe that, you're either a Marxist (both candidates embrace free market capitalism although to different ends), a Libertarian (both candidates embrace the power of government although to different ends), or uninformed (bah, why bother to educate myself about policy differences?).

This time however, the differences are even greater now that we have a Presidential candidate willing to embrace universal health care and other formerly untouchable liberal policy goals. So if by "lesser of two evils" you mean "starkly different candidates with starkly different policy proposals," you would be right.

But no one cares about policy differences right?

That's too much work!

[FightinPhils]

Here's my choice for president:

[CHS89]

Originally Posted by The Commish

Ah, an "independent."

What I like to call the "mushy middle." A lot of these people tend to vote on things like how Gore sighs too much, how Bush sounds "like a regular guy," and how Kerry "windsurfs.... must be an elitist!" That said, there have been huge substantive differences between Bush and Gore, Bush and Kerry, and now McCain and Obama. If you don't believe that, you're either a Marxist (both candidates embrace free market capitalism although to different ends), a Libertarian (both candidates embrace the power of government although to different ends), or uninformed (bah, why bother to educate myself about policy differences?).

This time however, the differences are even greater now that we have a Presidential candidate willing to embrace universal health care and other formerly untouchable liberal policy goals. So if by "lesser of two evils" you mean "starkly different candidates with starkly different policy proposals," you would be right.

But no one cares about policy differences right?

That's too much work!

Look who you're lecturing. Better off talking to a wall. This is a kid who's got an "I agree, Dan" key on his keyboard. You think mercury is dense?

There's only one reason he's voting for Obama (namely, that Scranton's mayor supports Clinton) and frankly, the rest of the country is better off if he and others like him didn't vote if that's the extent of their "reasoning".