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Old 06-16-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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Monroe County is a disaster and local from Nepa always knew as much. I think outsiders and transplants were lured in by it's proximity to NJ and NYC but Poconos in general were a no go for many in Nepa.
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:49 PM
 
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I can't wait for the day when I move from Sussex county Nj to Wayne county pa.
People in Pa. look you in the eye, say "hello" are respectful and friendly. I never even met my neighbors after living here in Sussex county for 35 years.
Are you ready for that? It's going to be interesting. It may be interesting in the oil, propane, power outage, septic system sort of way. You can do that. People do it every day.

Don't expect too much. Foreigners have been moving in for years, decades, centuries even. I'm a native Pennsylvanian, and I'll be the first to say hello, but many aren't like that. You have to earn their trust. It's the same in many areas. I've lived in a few states, and while there's always a few who will wave and say hello, it takes a while longer to find true friends. A lifer doesn't need any new friends.

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Old 06-17-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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One of the reasons Wall Street West never materialized was because of the pathetic state of high speed internet in Monroe county.

We have 2 choices- last century 1-3 Mbps DSL from Verizon, and only available in certain areas, or slow, very overpriced cable internet from the monopoly known as Blue Ridge Cable.

Look at the stats. Areas that have FIOS, Google Fiber, muni gigabit and the like experience an uptick in economic growth.

Until something is done about the lack of fast, reliable, affordable, modern broadband something like Wall Street West will never, ever materialize here.

And these are just the kind of industries we *want* to attract here. They bring higher paying jobs that generally have less impact on the environment than water parks and resorts.
Maybe I'm wrong? I believe that Comcast owns BRC. Which means that the same corporate owner of the systems in our metropolitan areas controls our local internet/cable.

Besides that; the Wall Street West initiative was also looking for other areas including the Lehigh Valley. My feeling was that it was more than just internet service that stopped them in their tracks. It could have simply been a ploy to get voters to the polls?
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Old 06-17-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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After living in Pittsburgh for 5 years, and having a vacation spot in the Poconos for 8, I can say that the people in Wayne County are so much nicer, more open to transplants and it is just so much more like home to me. I don't know where I fall in the NY transplant as I lived in NY for 25 years, grew up in Ireland for 20 years.
But overall, Wayne County gets my wave of approval every time
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Old 06-17-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Tannersville, PA
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Maybe I'm wrong? I believe that Comcast owns BRC. Which means that the same corporate owner of the systems in our metropolitan areas controls our local internet/cable.

Besides that; the Wall Street West initiative was also looking for other areas including the Lehigh Valley. My feeling was that it was more than just internet service that stopped them in their tracks. It could have simply been a ploy to get voters to the polls?
Are you serious?

Comcast has NOTHING whatsoever to do with BRC. In fact, I would take Comcast over BRC *ANY* day. Comcast is bad- BRC is worse!

BRC is owned by PenTeleData, a company headquartered in Palmerton. The "backbone" is provided by PTD. PTD partners with another cable provider called Service Electric, which serves the counties surrounding Monroe- but NOT Monroe itself.

PTD sells them bandwidth. SECTV then sells that bandwidth to their customers for less money, and with NO usage caps.

It's the same bandwidth. Coming from the same company- PTD. Only it's more expensive in Monroe County, and it's capped.

Why? Because some of those other areas have competition. They are a monopoly here and they take advantage of that fact.

I wish Comcast or some other provider would come into this area... :-/

We've got a new start-up in Stroudsburg called NCN Data. But only downtown S'Burg is wired with actual fiber. The rest of the service they offer is wireless. My attitude towards wireless internet is meh. If it's anything like satellite internet, it will suck. :-/

The Lehigh Valley has FIOS in *certain* areas. They may also have Comcast or some other providers.

A project like Wall Street West needs beaucoup bandwidth and speed. It would never, ever be built here because our leaders aren't interested in challenging the broadband status quo, and can't see beyond approving the next water park or shopping center... :-/
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Are you serious?

Comcast has NOTHING whatsoever to do with BRC. In fact, I would take Comcast over BRC *ANY* day. Comcast is bad- BRC is worse!

BRC is owned by PenTeleData, a company headquartered in Palmerton. The "backbone" is provided by PTD. PTD partners with another cable provider called Service Electric, which serves the counties surrounding Monroe- but NOT Monroe itself.

PTD sells them bandwidth. SECTV then sells that bandwidth to their customers for less money, and with NO usage caps.

It's the same bandwidth. Coming from the same company- PTD. Only it's more expensive in Monroe County, and it's capped.

Why? Because some of those other areas have competition. They are a monopoly here and they take advantage of that fact.

I wish Comcast or some other provider would come into this area... :-/

We've got a new start-up in Stroudsburg called NCN Data. But only downtown S'Burg is wired with actual fiber. The rest of the service they offer is wireless. My attitude towards wireless internet is meh. If it's anything like satellite internet, it will suck. :-/

The Lehigh Valley has FIOS in *certain* areas. They may also have Comcast or some other providers.

A project like Wall Street West needs beaucoup bandwidth and speed. It would never, ever be built here because our leaders aren't interested in challenging the broadband status quo, and can't see beyond approving the next water park or shopping center... :-/
You're right. I think that I misunderstood an article comparing Comcast rates to BRC. The Comcast rates were slightly lower for internet.
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Old 06-18-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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Is there anything Scranton can do to ever come back? You can call me negative but I just don't see it.
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Old 06-18-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Is there anything Scranton can do to ever come back? You can call me negative but I just don't see it.
Is really easy from my pov. Lower taxes or give break for business , company's. There are university's and solid blue collar base so you could attract people to stay
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Old 06-18-2017, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Tannersville, PA
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Is really easy from my pov. Lower taxes or give break for business , company's. There are university's and solid blue collar base so you could attract people to stay
The protectionist laws preventing municipal broadband ought to be repealed, for starters.

I don't know what kind of businesses are in Scranton, but it would benefit everyone, including residents, to build out a gigabit fiber system for internet and be able to provide affordable, modern, fast, unlimited bandwidth to everyone.

Manufacturing is dead. Anyone with half a brain would look towards the future and want to attract high tech industries to the area.

High tech industries bring better paying jobs, a better class of people, and have less environmental impact than tourism.

And by all means- give these types of businesses a tax break to relocate here.

But NO high tech industry will come here with the pathetic, last century slow as molasses crap that passes for broadband in most of NEPA.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:14 PM
 
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Tech is one area Nepa won't be thriving in there's absolutely no way. The vast majority of employers here are so old school they don't even allow teleworking or flex schedules which big time tech firms offer. Nepa is way behind the times in that regard. And Nepa is a tax and spend city lower taxes for businesses ain't happening. Like I said I simply see Scranton becoming a ghetto not a thriving city.
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