ethanol NOW!

[tremontpa]

The Anthracite industry peaked in 1917 at a little over 100 million tons. Now, from the data I have seen, about 2 million tons is mined every year. The number probably has gone up significantly though.

[Southwb]

I wonder is they could convert coal to gas for a car How much that would cost?

[thecoalman]

They have processes like that now, if my history is correct Germany was the first to utilize a process to do this during WW2 so its nothing new. I believe the U.S. Air Force is using a similar process or developing one to make jet fuel. It comes up in the news a lot for these conversion plants too. My only thought on that is it's similar to the issues with ethanol, how much energy are you expending to produce it? Burning coal in its raw state is going to produce the most usable energy. Once you start converting it to something else you're going down hill.

[tremontpa]

I believe that a Coal to Oil plant is still planned in Mahanoy City. There was also an Ethanol Plant planned in Tremont.

[geos]

Originally Posted by tinman01

LOL no thats what happens when we listen to idiots like Al Gore and company.

That's what happens when you have Republicans in charge for the last 8 years but of course they won't take responsibility for anything. Everything is Al Gore's fault or Hillary or Bill or George Soros or anyone but them.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by geos

That's what happens when you have Republicans in charge for the last 8 years but of course they won't take responsibility for anything. Everything is Al Gore's fault or Hillary or Bill or George Soros or anyone but them.

Are you kidding me? The push for corn to ethanol goes back to long before Bush entered the picture. Al Gore was a major backer of this policy and is still advocating it with sky rocketing food prices and overwhelming evidence it's not worth it. He casted the deciding vote way back in 1994 that started su down this road.

REMARKS AS PREPARED FOR DELIVERY BY VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE

THIRD ANNUAL FARM JOURNAL CONFERENCE

Tuesday, December 1, 1998


.......I was also proud to stand up for the ethanol tax exemption when it was under attack in the Congress -- at one point, supplying a tie-breaking vote in the Senate to save it. The more we can make this home-grown fuel a successful, widely-used product, the better-off our farmers and our environment will be.........

I'll also note that both Al Gore stands to gain significantly financially with the continued use of corn for bio-fuels:

Gross Negligence [Noel Sheppard]
As the international food crisis makes its way onto America’s front pages, climate realists have watched in amazement the groundswell of finger-pointing at ethanol. In the last 30 days alone, over 3,000 news reports have discussed the biofuel’s connection to rising prices and grain shortages across the globe.

Yet, with all this overdue attention on the folly of turning food into fuel, Nobel Laureate Al Gore — who has advocated the expansion of biofuels for decades, and is himself invested in companies at the forefront of such technologies — has thus far escaped scrutiny.

Making matters worse, the venture capital group Gore joined in November, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, also has investments in Amyris and AltraBiofuels. One of the key partners of this firm, John Doerr, is advocating legislation that would expand biofuel usage at exactly the time when we should be rethinking this entire process.

http://planetgore.nationalreview.com...Q5NTE4ZGQ1M2Q=