Boycott the Roman Catholic Church (California, Jefferson: credit, house, living)

[Quijanoth]

LOL. I looked through six pages of this, and thought of two different names for the thread:

1. Urinating, and upward trajectory on climbing filament.
2. "Experiment in troll-dom...how many nuts can I get in one topic?"

[chicken.or.the.nugget]

to the original poster
you're absolutley ridiculous
if any random person that it would be ok but because he's a bishop it's all this drama
have you heard of freedom of speech?
look it up
and if you're claiming to be a member of Jefferson's party you're not kidding anyone but yourself
and i think abortion should be legal because not everyone is religious and everyone should have a right to chose their lifestyle (although i dont support/encourage it)

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by monkeybutt

to the original poster
you're absolutley ridiculous
if any random person that it would be ok but because he's a bishop it's all this drama
have you heard of freedom of speech?
look it up
and if you're claiming to be a member of Jefferson's party you're not kidding anyone but yourself
and i think abortion should be legal because not everyone is religious and everyone should have a right to chose their lifestyle (although i dont support/encourage it)

What are you talking about? Why am I absolutely ridiculous? A bishop's "freedom of speech" ENDS when it infringes upon the tax-exempt status of his particular religious organization. Jefferson's party? What? The "drama" is because I resent very much that the IRS, an agency I may be working for sometime in the near-future (so watch your back yourself), is being trampled all over by militant bishops and priests who don't see anything wrong with "imploring" and "warning" their followers (coercing, if you will) into voting for the pro-life candidate (who is obviously NOT Sen. Obama). If you align yourself to a political viewpoint and begin to show partisanship your tax-exempt status OUGHT to be revoked. End of discussion. I'll bet if I formed my own tax-exempt church and began telling people to vote for the candidate who more strongly supports same-sex rights there would be a bloody UPROAR. There was INDEED an uproar of the Rev. Wright scandal, as was seen here on our political boards of City-Data and beyond. Where's the outrage over Bishop Martino trampling over the IRS? You can't pick and choose which topics you're allowed to go off the deep end about with passion.

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by Quijanoth

LOL. I looked through six pages of this, and thought of two different names for the thread:

1. Urinating, and upward trajectory on climbing filament.
2. "Experiment in troll-dom...how many nuts can I get in one topic?"

Troll? Hardly. I'm the second-most-widely-read member of this forum and one of the eldest. Just because you think the Diocese of Scranton has legal supremacy in regards to the IRS does not make you a "troll" or a "nut." Is it any wonder why the accounting profession receives such little respect when so few people adhere to accounting policy? Why am I obtaining my CPA when I live in an area where it's "okay" to violate the IRS guidelines?

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by Lehigh Valley Native

You title the thread and make your first post "Boycott the Roman Catholic Church", but yet you see nothing wrong attending a school owned and run by the Roman Catholic Church?
The school you go to is owned by the Vatican, which if you forgot, is The Roman Catholic Church.
That is what I call B.S. on. Just admit you were wrong, close the thread and move on.

Why was I wrong? Why do you Roman Catholics continue to rally behind your bishop when he did wrong by the IRS? You're all just lucky that I have yet to "blow the whistle" in order to bring the bishop's political shenanigans and partisanship to their attention. I'm sure you'll all be singing a different tune when your church's tax-exempt statuses are revoked, and even MORE of your ornate buildings become abandoned. B.S.? You're a fine one to talk about b.s. You disappeared from this forum for how many months, and then you conveniently pop up just to flame me? Nice.

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by dlpres

Excellent Point

Originally Posted by returningtonepa???

ditto

So in other words if I dropped out of King's today you'd all drop out of the Diocese of Scranton? What point would it make if I were to boycott my own college if nobody else followed suit? How many titmes must I tell you people that King's College and the Diocese of Scranton are SEPARATE ENTITIES! We are INDEPENDENT of one another. When you put money into your collection plate it does NOT fund tuition for King's students. We're operated by the Congregation of the Holy Cross. Bishop Martino has absolutely NO jurisdiction over us. Do you honestly think that just because we're a "Catholic"-oriented college that we're under the discretion of Bishop Martino? I can't even remember the last time he was on campus (if ever).

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by tofulovinvegan

wow....
VOTE FOR OBAMA!!
and yes, if hillary was the democratic nomination she would have my vote hands down. i am actually disappointed it isn't her, but alas it is obama and he is good enough.

we need a president that will care about the environment, animals, the people, and by people i mean US, the american people. we need a president that will deal with today and tomorrow's problems. we need clean energy and other alternative energy sources so let's find them, we need health care, so why not spend our taxes on it? even if our taxes do get raised at least obama will spend them on us, the american people, not using fake money and our real money to pay for a war, a pointless war that needs to end.
mccain and palin are disgusting. doesn't anyone care that mccain cheated on his first wife or the fact that he thinks polar bears need to adapt or move on? come on! he's old and he is a lot like bush, he's sarcastic and not a good candidate for presidency.

OBAMA IS, vote for obama, and you'll be making the right choice!!

NO, NO, NO!!! This thread isn't about "Obama" vs. "McCain." This thread is about "adherence to the law" vs. "transcendence above the law." Remember upthread where I specifically bolded and highlighted sections of the IRS code for tax-exempt organizations which appeared to be violated by Bishop Martino? I think the IRS's ignorance of this matter sets a perfect legal precedent for other non-profits to speak their minds politically and tell their donors and beneficiaries for whom THEY should be voting for as well. After all, fair is fair, right? By failing to enforce their own regulations the IRS has now established a slippery slope. A logical defense from a non-profit under review to have its tax-exempt status revoked could now be "you let the Diocese of Scranton do it, so why not us too?" I'm not yet enrolled in law school, but if and when I obtain my JD I would GLADLY take on such a case pro bono in order to prove to renegade officials such as Bishop Martino that they can't run their organizations however they please. I hope the settlement would be enormous as well---these Roman Catholic officials don't seem to let things "sink in" until they are hit very hard in the pocketbooks (reassignments of priests who were admitted sexual predators, for example)

[chicken.or.the.nugget]

oops my bad
first i thought you were just some angry person against catholics saying everyone should ditch the church because some guy was saying vote mccain cause he was prolife. Anyways i guess you're point is still invalid because the whole church shouldnt be boycotted just that bishop. And he technically didnt break the rules cause he never said which side to vote for. Heck it could be the constitution party hes rooting for. Hes just stating his opinion

[chicken.or.the.nugget]

and dont say catholics are poorly educated seniors. A lot of catholics i know are smarter than most people. My dad's family is catholic and almost everyone has an a really good job (hes a physician, his sister and nephew are lawyers for one of canadas seven sister law firms, his cousin is a periodontist etc etc).
And dont threaten me with the IRS cause i dont live in your country. I dont even pay taxes saying that im 15.

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by monkeybutt

and dont say catholics are poorly educated seniors. A lot of catholics i know are smarter than most people. My dad's family is catholic and almost everyone has an a really good job (hes a physician, his sister and nephew are lawyers for one of canadas seven sister law firms, his cousin is a periodontist etc etc).
And dont threaten me with the IRS cause i dont live in your country. I dont even pay taxes saying that im 15.

So you're 15, a non-U.S. citizen, and yet you feel worthy of judging me because...?