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Old 10-19-2008, 07:39 AM
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I just lost four people whom I knew within the span of two weeks and have been sick for the past eight days and am feeling sicker with nobody knowing what's wrong with me, but you know what---I'm chipper right now.
Sorry you're sick Paul! Hope ya feel better soon!!

I remembered you posting this on the NEPA cooking thread...

*****Here is a list of the recipes I have available in my own repertroire. Please feel free to respond if you'd like one of them expressed in greater detail, and I'd be happy to assist!

~Burnt Pop-Tart a la Smoking Toaster
~Semi-Hard Ramen Noodles Smothered in Sodium-Laden Pittston Tap Water
~Fresh Garden Salad Featuring Brown-Edged Lettuce and Greening Carrots
~Taste Bud-Searing Hot Pockets
~Dark Black Crusted Grilled Cheese Sandwiches Featuring Half-Melted Cheese
~Soggy Triscuit and Moldy Cheese Party Platter*****

Maybe your illness is diet-related???

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Old 10-19-2008, 07:45 AM
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Can we all get together for some Chicken Soup, I'll make it........homemade. ( except for the chicken)
Now, where to go for a good plucky chicken? HUmmmmmm

We're all to sick to boycott the Catholic Church.....Thats ok.....America gave us many religions and we can pick and choose whatever one suits our needs. I like that idea Great America!
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:18 AM
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i dont get why so many people are against the Catholic church. Yes it is strict and conservative but at least it is consistent and not contradicting itself. I am a Catholic but do not go to church (just sometimes for like christmas and easter and other random times) and know many other catholics. Maybe they weren't as strictly raised as some of you but they are all normal and are not brainwashed. A lot of these stereotypes are ridiculous. And not it's not like it's the Catholics are the main groups supporting the war, the Pope was against it.
And whether you chose to believe it or not, abortion is killing a baby. Its like saying suicide isnt killing because its killing yourself. Imagine if someone was pregnant and pushed a woman down the stairs. The woman is fine but she loses the baby. What would you call that now? The person who pushed the woman killed the baby. But when you kill it yourself its okay? I think abortion should be legal but it should cost a lot and the taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it (which is atleast how it is in Canada). And for rape/if it is going to kill the mother i support it.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:34 AM
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i dont get why so many people are against the Catholic church. Yes it is strict and conservative but at least it is consistent and not contradicting itself. I am a Catholic but do not go to church (just sometimes for like christmas and easter and other random times) and know many other catholics. Maybe they weren't as strictly raised as some of you but they are all normal and are not brainwashed. A lot of these stereotypes are ridiculous. And not it's not like it's the Catholics are the main groups supporting the war, the Pope was against it.
And whether you chose to believe it or not, abortion is killing a baby. Its like saying suicide isnt killing because its killing yourself. Imagine if someone was pregnant and pushed a woman down the stairs. The woman is fine but she loses the baby. What would you call that now? The person who pushed the woman killed the baby. But when you kill it yourself its okay? I think abortion should be legal but it should cost a lot and the taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it (which is atleast how it is in Canada). And for rape/if it is going to kill the mother i support it.
I don't think that people on this thread are "against" the Catholic church as a RELIGIOUS group. Their (and my) concern seems to be that the Catholic church (or ANY religious organization for that matter) is trying to use their beliefs as method towards political ends. If any religious group is going to get involved in government, then I believe that they should pay taxes (the same as you & me) to help support that government.

I do not believe in abortion except in certain cases such as rape or medical emergency, but if legislation is passed to make ALL abortion illegal, then there is NO choice.

Just my opinion...
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:32 AM
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Default so much for FREEDOM

It's amazing how we contradict ourselves here in the good ol' U.S. of A!

We wave our flags and brag about being free. Then we turn on our own women and somehow (with religion) justify passing laws to take away their own freedom to choose what to do with their own body! I would love to see all the hardline "pro-lifers" adopt all those children born into the world as a result of rape and incest! Please feel free to step up and adopt these children as you force your lofty ideals on others you don't even know........good grief!

What's next? Mandatory church attendance? Abstinence Only! oooops, Doesn't work (sarah)!
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:38 AM
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i still think it should be legal as i stated in another post because not everyone is religious and they should be able to chose. But I do not support/encourage it. I do however, support/encourage it if it is rape or harming the mother
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:56 AM
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The majority of abortions aren't performed on women who were raped or were victims of incest. The majority of them were performed on women who made a bad choice by agreeing to unprotected sex. By unprotected sex I mean choosing to not use a condom. Birthcontrol pills are not as effective as condoms. However, birth control pills combined with condom use is nearly 100% effective at birthcontrol. Women want to have a choice? Then their choice should begin before they choose to have sex.

And yes, some of the past messages here were messages of hate and ignorance towards the Catholics and Christian religion in general.
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Anyone engaged in this kind of nonsensical talk will never understand freedom. I have my own convictions and I know that I have no right to go to strangers and tell them what to do, or NOT do with their personal lives!

It is an insanity propelled by institutions of self-righteous arrogance. If you make an attempt to get the log out of your own eye, you will be busy for your entire lifetime! Others will be spared needless grief.
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Old 10-19-2008, 12:45 PM
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The majority of abortions aren't performed on women who were raped or were victims of incest. The majority of them were performed on women who made a bad choice by agreeing to unprotected sex. By unprotected sex I mean choosing to not use a condom. Birthcontrol pills are not as effective as condoms. However, birth control pills combined with condom use is nearly 100% effective at birthcontrol. Women want to have a choice? Then their choice should begin before they choose to have sex.

And yes, some of the past messages here were messages of hate and ignorance towards the Catholics and Christian religion in general.
Not to hijack the thread more towards abortion, but I agree that the use of birth control more WOULD cut down on unwanted pregnancy & abortions done by the "majority".

But maybe the focus should not be so much on the problem of legal abortion itself as on the CAUSE of this "majority's" abortions & the ways to cut down on the CAUSE of the problem & not the EFFECT of the problem.

But making ALL abortion illegal WILL affect the so-called "minority" of rape & medical issue victims by taking away the CHOICE of having the abortion if wanted or necessary.

Now let me mention the words "Catholic church" so the thread is still on topic....
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The majority of abortions aren't performed on women who were raped or were victims of incest. The majority of them were performed on women who made a bad choice by agreeing to unprotected sex. By unprotected sex I mean choosing to not use a condom. Birthcontrol pills are not as effective as condoms. However, birth control pills combined with condom use is nearly 100% effective at birthcontrol. Women want to have a choice? Then their choice should begin before they choose to have sex.

And yes, some of the past messages here were messages of hate and ignorance towards the Catholics and Christian religion in general.

I didn't want to jump in on this thread ... but I have been reading it from the beginning.

If you use condoms and the birth control pill that is also against Catholic teachings ... the only birth control the Catholic Religion believes in is the Rhythm Method. So if you are Catholic then abstinence would be you best bet ... if you don't want to go against your religious beliefs ... but how many people are sticking to those rules?

I personally am not for abortion ... but I also feel it is not my place to tell someone else what to do with their bodies.

Yes I am a Catholic just in case that question comes up.
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