Boycott the Roman Catholic Church (Scranton, Hazleton: camp, living in, club)

[go phillies]

Originally Posted by dlpres

I have been reading this site for quite awhile. I rarely post but Scranbarre really struck a cord with me.

If you are so firmly behind your beliefs you should leave King's immediately!

I am also wondering why you never mention anything about Obama and Rev Wright or Father Phlager or William Ayers or Revco. How come you are not upset about Obama's church and all the political hatred they spew out? Are you going to take action against them as well?

I still can't believe the Dems voted him in over Clinton.

Great post. I agree.

And actually the democrats did not vote Obama in....they threw out the votes from two major states that were pro-Hillary....Florida and Michigan, to force Obama in as the nominee...the far left wing of the party took over.

[Retired Law 08]

Ah...yes...everybody is forgeting about the good reverend...

[MermanMike]

What specifically are your thoughts about the reverend coartist, if you don't mind my asking? To me, he seems like a product of a world that made things very tough for him, and so became bitter against the establishment. Personally I can completely understand that. I've listened to a number of his sermons, including the often-quotes one, and in the context of the entire sermon, his sound bites do not sound nearly as incendiary.

It is pure propaganda when people say that Rev. Wright said America deserved 911...when you listen to the whole speech, it is clear that he said nothing of the sort. His whole message, as I see it, is essentially..."Repent America"...and that is a message that needs to be heard. God Bless America doesn't quite encompass the whole situation...America is not blame-free when one considers why the world is as violent and confused as it is. To turn this boat around, it will take everyone on board to own up to what is ill in their own heart. And Rev. Wright said exactly that in his speech...it is time to look within, to figure out how our own actions have created the world we live in. If we can not do that then there is absolutely utterly no hope for us.

[Jungle George]

Originally Posted by MermanMike

What specifically are your thoughts about the reverend coartist, if you don't mind my asking? To me, he seems like a product of a world that made things very tough for him, and so became bitter against the establishment. Personally I can completely understand that. I've listened to a number of his sermons, including the often-quotes one, and in the context of the entire sermon, his sound bites do not sound nearly as incendiary.

It is pure propaganda when people say that Rev. Wright said America deserved 911...when you listen to the whole speech, it is clear that he said nothing of the sort. His whole message, as I see it, is essentially..."Repent America"...and that is a message that needs to be heard. God Bless America doesn't quite encompass the whole situation...America is not blame-free when one considers why the world is as violent and confused as it is. To turn this boat around, it will take everyone on board to own up to what is ill in their own heart. And Rev. Wright said exactly that in his speech...it is time to look within, to figure out how our own actions have created the world we live in. If we can not do that then there is absolutely utterly no hope for us.

It's like anything MM...what we hear is usually what they let trickle out for us to hear or "want" us to hear & then that is usually slanted or distorted by the media, private interest groups, etc.

We are supposed to make "informed" votes or "informed" decisions (not just politics, but any issue), but I wonder how "informed" most of us REALLY are!!

Sad when you have to be cynical!!

[dlpres]

Hey Go Phillies,

Thanks, this is not the Democratic party my father used to be a part of. The party has been taken over by the radical left wing.

By the way I grew up in Moosic and now live in the Philly area, and I will be going to the game tonight. We need Hamels to come up big again!

[MermanMike]

Yes, George, there is a lot of selective hearing going on, and a lot of not acknowledging our own mistakes. Today is Yom Kippur...the day on which we are reminded to acknowledge the part of the problem that we create. May each of us consider on this day the many ways in which we contribute to violence and unconsciousness on the planet, and resolve to clear those old viruses from our hard drives.

[returningtonepa???]

back to the original topic----when bush ran both times--similar letters were read in ALL catholic churches everywhere--not just scranton diocese----other catholics are hearing the same thing--reaffirmation of the church's pro-life movement-----NOT VOTE FOR MCCAIN

the only difference here is that some people become totally off the wall incensed when they feel their choice.obama.is not being supported(real or imagined)

i have NEVER SEEN THIS in my many years of observing presidential elections-----i find the anger of the obama supporters scary----example--this anti catholic rhetoric brought on by this letter

[go phillies]

I'll bet if there was a letter from the bishop supporting Obama, these people wouldn't have a problem with it.

"Separation of church and state" is found NOWHERE in the Constitution. I challenge anyone to find it for me. The Constitution only guarantees that there will be no government-run religion, as in the colonial times with the Church of England. This does not mean that religious beliefs and morality have no place in government, or that religious people are not entitled to speak out against politicians or laws that they do not believe in.

[ScranBarre]

Go Phillies, once again I'm not referencing the U.S. CONSTITUTION, but rather I am disgruntled that the Roman Catholic church expects to be regarded as tax-exempt but just stands by idly as the Diocese of Scranton stampedes all over the IRS guidelines regarding how one must remain unbiased and partial in elections. To those telling me to "leave King's," by the way, why are you diverting everyone's attention away from the TRUE problem at hand. That's like saying "if you don't like it, then go elsewhere" about establishments that ILLEGALLY permit smoking during our current statewide ban. You can't just pick and choose which laws you wish to follow. If Bishop Martino can tell people "vote for the pro-life candidate" (of which there is only ONE choice), then I feel as if college campuses, which are also tax-exempt, should encourage faculty and students to vote for the "liberal candidate" (of which there is only one). Fair is fair, right? Once you tread down the slippery slope that the Diocese of Scranton has created in its derision from the Roman Catholic church, then you open up an entire can of worms. Want to remain tax-exempt? Then don't coerce people into voting how you see fit!

[go phillies]

Originally Posted by ScranBarre

Go Phillies, once again I'm not referencing the U.S. CONSTITUTION, but rather I am disgruntled that the Roman Catholic church expects to be regarded as tax-exempt but just stands by idly as the Diocese of Scranton stampedes all over the IRS guidelines regarding how one must remain unbiased and partial in elections. To those telling me to "leave King's," by the way, why are you diverting everyone's attention away from the TRUE problem at hand. That's like saying "if you don't like it, then go elsewhere" about establishments that ILLEGALLY permit smoking during our current statewide ban. You can't just pick and choose which laws you wish to follow. If Bishop Martino can tell people "vote for the pro-life candidate" (of which there is only ONE choice), then I feel as if college campuses, which are also tax-exempt, should encourage faculty and students to vote for the "liberal candidate" (of which there is only one). Fair is fair, right? Once you tread down the slippery slope that the Diocese of Scranton has created in its derision from the Roman Catholic church, then you open up an entire can of worms. Want to remain tax-exempt? Then don't coerce people into voting how you see fit!

Do you believe that Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ, should lose its tax exemption for Rev. Jeremiah Wright's political sermons from the pulpit? Wright's sermons have been far more directly political than anything that's come from Bishop Martino...
Obama's Spiritual Mentor May Put Church in Hot Water - FOXNews.com Elections

Or is this just another excuse for you to spout off your anti-Catholic beliefs? You don't like anti-gay prejudice....yet you habor quite a bit of prejudice against Catholics.