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Unread 02-15-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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Angry In response to pcp tobyhanna, pa...to be continued....

MY POST ON 1/31/2009

Can anyone tell me why Pocono country place has such a bad reputation? I moved here from NYC like everyone else and left the ghetto mentality there of living and surviving in a poor neighborhood of the Bronx. I moved her with my family to obtain a better life for my son. My family brought a house on route 196N and the equity of peoples homes decreased because of the reputation of what they call (PCP). The schools systems in Tobyhanna are horrible because the children who live in PCP attend the schools in the area so I will be busing my son. It's just a shame that there are some decent people iving in tobyhanna and in PCP but the whole area gets such a bad reputation which now the equity of good quality and almost high end homes are decreased because of it.





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maybe cuz it is a dump and it is full of awful people (but not all- just most) and maybe cuz the board of directors is corrupt and dues keep going up and services keep going down? This is just for a start.
As said before, search here and you will understand.
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MY RESPONSE 2/15/2009


Maybe so, and just for the record, please check out the area before you buy. Get to know your neighbors, check out commuter's blogs especially of you go to Martz.com they have commuter blog's. Ask around and get to know people. Do not do what I did and survey the land once over and build a home here. Go to Front Door.com and check out the equity of the neighborhood and the prices of the homes are going for. The school tax, the dues which went up to 1000$ now in the area and so on. Don't do like I did. I love my home but over build for the neighborhood. So now what I put in my home and quality high end appliances I won't see any return when I refinance or go to sell. What a shame and all because of PCP. It's actually depressing. That is what happens to first time home owners. Next time I know



 
Unread 02-15-2009, 05:35 PM
 
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I have owned a home in Pocono Farms for over 10 years and moved my family out of the area due to the Increase in crime and in my opinion poor school system.However ,We have been spending alot of time there recently and it seems really nice in the community and according to my neighbors the elementary schools have improved due to a new principal and no one had anything negative to say about the area.
I am hopeful the area is improving,As for APCP ,my wife continues to go in and out of there as a private duty nurse.3 years ago her employer would not send a nurse there without an escort.Now the nurses are going alone and no one has reported any trouble.
APCP has a bad name and I know there has been alot of trouble there over the years and even if it does improve it will be very difficult to its rep changed.
Just my 2 cents
 
Unread 02-15-2009, 06:13 PM
 
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Hopefully your neighborhood will work together to make some necessary changes. Based on what I've read about PCP in the past, much of the issue is due to renters, especially section 8s. Perhaps there needs to be a limitation on renting by changing some of the bylaws in the community. It might also be smart for the neighborhood to rent out some police presence, especially at night. Eventually the 3 percent who don't want that type of attention will choose to move out and you'll have much of your neighborhood back.
 
Unread 02-16-2009, 05:54 AM
 
Location: McMichaels, PA
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Renters are transient, and transience is a big part of the problem in PCP. There are a lot of people there who have no stake in the community because they're only going to be there for a year. Absentee landlords who couldn't care less about what happens in their houses until the rent checks stop coming make it easy for some unsavory transient tenants to wreak havoc without consequence.

PCP also has way more than its share of owners who were victimized by the phantom-financing scams several years ago that targeted lower-income urban families. It would seem, too, that more recently, PCP received more than its share of new residents who relied on creative financing to purchase and who now are in trouble. As a result, there are far more foreclosures in PCP than there are elsewhere in the Poconos. Unfortunately, everyone who sells a home in PCP is in direct competition with those foreclosures, and that depresses prices considerably.
 
Unread 02-16-2009, 07:55 AM
 
Location: McMichaels, PA
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I hate to leave things on a purely negative, doom-and-gloom note. There are a lot of investors out there buying up foreclosures. It could be that PCP's non-foreclosure values will rise considerably once these homes are renovated and returned to the market. That's not going to happen next week or next month, obviously, but who knows -- a year or two from now, things might be starting to look very different there, especially if the association gets a handle on security issues and works toward improving the community's reputation.
 
Unread 02-16-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Saylorsburg, PA
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The only way PCP will get any better is when they blow up the whole place, bulldoze it, and let nature grow back!!
 
Unread 02-17-2009, 11:41 AM
 
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David Webb,you have some pretty strong feelings on APCP!!
I am in no way defending APCP,however I own a home in the area and am wondering what you know that I do not.
I have read all previous posts and have previously lived in tha area and do know alot of the previous negative issues.
A family member may be taking over my home in the farms and before she does so I want a real picture of what is really going on down there.
I have not lived there for over a year ,we do spend time there on the weekends and have not had any trouble.
Any one who lives in the area able to share info would be great.
 
Unread 02-18-2009, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Saylorsburg, PA
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All you have to do, Vitodave, is a Google search on the place for past news articles and you'll find plenty of reasons not to live and if you do, sell, and get out!! The last time I was there to visit a friend at the main gate itself there was a fight and shouting match going on with the girl working the gate and her apparent ex-boyfriend who stopped by with his new squeeze!! So you tell me how does that give the place a good reputation now?? It may have had one in the past but APCP lost it long ago when the welfare cheats, drug dealers, and the low-lifes from the ghetto's of New York started moving in. I've been living, permanently, in PA since Nov. '07 but I've been coming up here since '96 before all the above I mention came up in droves. So I know what it was like to drive around anywhere in the Poconos, Stroudsburg, and other close by towns and not have to worry about them ruining the place or blowing their horns at you cuz they want to go 70 in a 35mph zone. We can all thank the Percudani's and that other idiot "1 800 WHY RENT" for the decline of the area.
 
Unread 02-20-2009, 09:51 AM
 
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PCP has gotten a bad reputation from the local media and local peoples opinions. Perhaps the stories and opinions are blown out of proportion (I think they are) however, those opinons exist for a reason. Sure, PCP is a "nice neighborhood" compared to Jersey City, the Bronx or Brooklyn, where most of the residents come from; but compared to most other neighborhoods in the Pocono's, well PCP isn't so nice. It's not as horrible as most people say it is, but it's probably the worst place to live in the Poconos anyway
 
Unread 02-20-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notkaplan View Post
PCP has gotten a bad reputation from the local media and local peoples opinions. Perhaps the stories and opinions are blown out of proportion (I think they are) however, those opinons exist for a reason. Sure, PCP is a "nice neighborhood" compared to Jersey City, the Bronx or Brooklyn, where most of the residents come from; but compared to most other neighborhoods in the Pocono's, well PCP isn't so nice. It's not as horrible as most people say it is, but it's probably the worst place to live in the Poconos anyway
The local media and local opinions aside, it's clear there are issues with PCP from an economic standpoint. There are an incredible amount of houses on the market for what is a 10,000 house area.
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