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Old 05-11-2009, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Sheeptown, USA
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I preferred the blight...
Me too, that is a horrible design for a housing project.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Me too, that is a horrible design for a housing project.
Not to be rude; but it looks like "glorified subsidized housing".Does anyone know how many units the complex(317 I guess) will contain?
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:10 PM
 
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Me too, that is a horrible design for a housing project.
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Not to be rude; but it looks like "glorified subsidized housing".Does anyone know how many units the complex(317 I guess) will contain?
I thought the exact same thing.

"At least it's better than the Mulberry St. Tower."

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I have similar complaints about the Gateway Project currently under construction across from King's in Wilkes-Barre. What a missed opportunity to create a dramatic entrance with a lasting impression into the core of the city via North Main Street.
Got any pics of the construction? IIRC, the street level was basically hermetically sealed from the outside in the renderings.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:14 PM
 
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Shoegal was the one that first alluded to the notion that Scranton and Disney were alike. We were just saying how silly it is to compare the two. Apples and oranges.
The comparision was to a vision which most people thought would fail not to the cities themselves.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Well it is a way for people to live in center city. However I think maybe a staggering of the buildings or sawtooth facade would look better. Also, maybe balconies and/or bay windows.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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Pittsburgh is a fair comparison to use though because despite its population that is roughly four times the size of the city of Scranton (with a metropolitan area that is also about four times the size of ours), the cities are eerily similar.
  • Both are "cities of neighborhoods." Each city has numerous distinctive neighborhoods, many with ethnic origins, that are a symbol of pride for those that live there. Where some people like Bill Courtright and Go Phillies may say "West is Best" (in support of West Side), someone in Pitttsburgh might similarly be closely-tied to the SouthSide Slopes, Mt. Washington, Mexican War Streets, Polish Hill, Shadyside, Squirrel Hill, etc.
  • Even some of the neighborhoods themselves are similar. Shadyside is an "old money" neighborhood that feels a lot like Green Ridge on a lot of blocks, except for there being more businesses. Squirrel Hill is a traditionally Jewish community with a lot of old shade trees, historic homes, and also a relatively-high population of college grad students (think the Hill Section). Mt. Washington is famous for its skyline views---East Mountain ringing a bell? Both cities residents really don't care much about their respective downtowns because they are more aligned with their own neighborhood businesses or even suburban shopping/dining areas.
  • Both cities have overwhelmingly negative populations (and reputations for that matter). Both populations think any developer is destined to fail and that the city ought not to pursue white-collar and/or service sector ventures but try to cling to dying blue-collar roots. Both cities have natives who think the city sucks with more upbeat transplants who see the potential in making each city something special.
  • Both cities are relatively non-diverse. Both cities have extremely large yet closeted LGBT communities (I should know). Both cities fly under the national radar, which leads many in the nation to not be familiar with them.
Scranbarre you are right on about the negativity. No potential new business wants to come in to an area with such a negative view on everything-it doesn't matter what the actual work ethic is in the area.

You are absolutely right about this area being non-diverse. If you are from LGBT community, a career woman making a decent living, a carpetbagger (transplant), etc. then the locals will have little to do with you because they cannot embrace the change. And god help the woman who orders a glass of champagne if it isn't her birthday or a special date night like Valentine's day because everyone assumes she is either a lesbian, a gold digger or a call girl. It certainly can't be that she just likes champagne, maybe originally from a bigger city where people actually drink champagne for more then the occasional celebration.

They cling to manufacturing jobs while shopping at the big box chains like Walmart. I hear woman complain about how painfully bruising their shoes are that they got from Payless for $20 bucks while they are standing on their feet most of the day working at a job that at best pays 7-13 dollars an hour. And they don;t see any connection to the fact that since they as well as others insist on paying cheap there won't be any manufacturing jobs here or anywhere else in the state or country. I'd rather save and pay for the real mccoy then the cheap knockoff? Why?? It's the better investment in the long run then something I'd have to throw out in short order.

And thanks for bringing up Squirrel Hill, I miss that area. Looks like a road trip is needed.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:45 PM
 
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If you are from LGBT community, a career woman making a decent living, a carpetbagger (transplant), etc. then the locals will have little to do with you because they cannot embrace the change. And god help the woman who orders a glass of champagne...
Are you admitting you're a career-woman, carpetbagging, champagne drinking lesbian? Me too!
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Are you admitting you're a career-woman, carpetbagging, champagne drinking lesbian? Me too!
I do not get the "champagne reference".....When I lived in Pittston it was: Don't Ask/Don't Tell....otherwise it was live and let live.....well usually....lol..
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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Are you admitting you're a career-woman, carpetbagging, champagne drinking lesbian? Me too!
Me three! Let's have a big lesbian dance party in Green Ridge!
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Sheeptown, USA
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Scranbarre you are right on about the negativity. No potential new business wants to come in to an area with such a negative view on everything-it doesn't matter what the actual work ethic is in the area.

You are absolutely right about this area being non-diverse. If you are from LGBT community, a career woman making a decent living, a carpetbagger (transplant), etc. then the locals will have little to do with you because they cannot embrace the change. And god help the woman who orders a glass of champagne if it isn't her birthday or a special date night like Valentine's day because everyone assumes she is either a lesbian, a gold digger or a call girl. It certainly can't be that she just likes champagne, maybe originally from a bigger city where people actually drink champagne for more then the occasional celebration.

They cling to manufacturing jobs while shopping at the big box chains like Walmart. I hear woman complain about how painfully bruising their shoes are that they got from Payless for $20 bucks while they are standing on their feet most of the day working at a job that at best pays 7-13 dollars an hour. And they don;t see any connection to the fact that since they as well as others insist on paying cheap there won't be any manufacturing jobs here or anywhere else in the state or country. I'd rather save and pay for the real mccoy then the cheap knockoff? Why?? It's the better investment in the long run then something I'd have to throw out in short order.

And thanks for bringing up Squirrel Hill, I miss that area. Looks like a road trip is needed.
The fact that a business does not want to come to Scranton has nothing to do with the residents, the people here would love to have good wage sustaining jobs. It again falls back on the Doherty administration, the high wage and mercantile tax, that we have mentioned a thousand times. It doesn't make fiscal sense for a business to set up shop here and Doherty could have remedied this in his 7 plus years but was short-sighted.
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