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Unread 12-23-2009, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Dallas, PA
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Why? You've done your share of posting these polls from magazines. I guess its only worth talking about if the poll puts the area in a positive light?

This is something people should be aware of if they plan on moving here without already having employment....the wages for most jobs in this area are nowhere near enough to sustain a family.
So true. You really have to be an entrepreneur in this area to make a decent living. My full-time job (which is a very good job, and considered "higher than average pay" for this area, though still a pitiful salary in my opinion) wouldn't support me alone. That's why I have basically 4 jobs, and 2 of them (pet sitting business and now real estate agent) are all in what you make of them. It seems like sales is the only shot out here you have at a decent salary, unless you're in the medical field.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 07:00 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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It seems like sales is the only shot out here you have at a decent salary, unless you're in the medical field.
Definitely...that or if you can luck into a government job, that's about it around here.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: PA/FL/UT
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I have to admit, if I could find a decent paying job in the NEPA area I would move back. My father and brother seem to be able to get employment, but I can't ever find anything in my field in the area. Now I have 2 kids so its even harder to find a job at my level (and now I want to move back even more because I want them to have the childhood that I did).

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Unread 12-23-2009, 11:41 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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I have to admit, if I could find a decent paying job in the NEPA area I would move back. My father and brother seem to be able to get employment, but I can't ever find anything in my field in the area. Now I have 2 kids so its even harder to find a job at my level (and now I want to move back even more because I want them to have the childhood that I did).

Start applying for federal and state government jobs. That's about the only stable, good-paying work left in NEPA with the exception of teaching and medicine.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas, PA
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Start applying for federal and state government jobs. That's about the only stable, good-paying work left in NEPA with the exception of teaching and medicine.
LOL, yes but unless you know someone (*especially* in this area), those jobs are pretty much unattainable.....and anyone who says otherwise is just in fairytale land.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 01:39 PM
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Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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Why? You've done your share of posting these polls from magazines. I guess its only worth talking about if the poll puts the area in a positive light?

This is something people should be aware of if they plan on moving here without already having employment....the wages for most jobs in this area are nowhere near enough to sustain a family.
No. It's called I've noticed that much of what this forum represents anymore is petty bickering, name-calling, and flaring tempers over the most trivial of issues. At least when weluvpa and I got into some of our epic political battles about Scranton we'd rely upon the reliable "battle lines" to be drawn with a few regulars on his side and a few on mine. Most of our debating was done in a civilized manner. Then when we tuckered ourselves out there were always plenty of people posting new threads looking for helpful information or plenty of threads that people like Summering, I LOVE PA, memoriesbre, and others who chose not to get into our feuds would post to lighten up everyone's spirits. Now there's so little activity on here that it barely registers a blip compared to what this place used to have. MovingOutofNJ is also soon leaving the area, and I think The Commish is gone as well.

Soon this forum will be nothing but threads in which everyone is either ganging up on shoegal111 or whining about how much they hate Scranton (with half of the replies in either case deleted by toobusytoday anyways). This sub-forum hit a wonderful "peak" already, and it's sad, in a sense, to see it start a gradual downward slide. Back in mid-2006 when I first stumbled upon this place it was so much better.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Forty Fort
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Don't want to be argumentative but if one is thrifty and prudent, it isn't impossible to live on eight or nine dollars and hour...I did it with two children living at home back in 1987, when as a single Mom, I bought a house...At the time, I was driving a 1985 Toyota...In 1990, I replaced it with a new Toyota...I was also paying for my younger son to play ice hockey, (the older one was working part time to pay for his own ice time and equipment)...In '92, I lost my job and took a 2 dollar an hour pay cut at the next one...No we didn't eat surf and turf, nor did we buy hundred dollar sneakers...But it can be done, and at the cost of fewer luxuries, it was worth it to live in this area...
BTW, I paid off the mortgage in October...

On the decline of the forum, it is the holiday time and people are busy with other tasks...I have noticed a lessening of substantive posts over the past couple of weeks...It will probably improve in the doldrums of winter...I'm willing to wait and see...
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Unread 12-23-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, PA
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Don't want to be argumentative but if one is thrifty and prudent, it isn't impossible to live on eight or nine dollars and hour...I did it with two children living at home back in 1987.
$8 or $9 in 1987....problem is, here it is 2009 (can we just say 2010?)...so 23 YEARS LATER and salaries here are STILL $8 or $9 an hour But, prices of *everything* have gone up, up, up!
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Unread 12-23-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Forty Fort
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$8 or $9 in 1987....problem is, here it is 2009 (can we just say 2010?)...so 23 YEARS LATER and salaries here are STILL $8 or $9 an hour But, prices of *everything* have gone up, up, up!
Certainly, we can call it 2010 - it's only a week away. And in 2009, and for all of 2010, my Social Security check, based on a 40 hour work week, "earns" me roughly eight dollars an hour...Prices do indeed continue to go up, but consumption doesn't have to...If I had children living at home now, I would be foolish to think that I could manage on that money today, but blanket assumptions always have exceptions...
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Unread 12-23-2009, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Sheeptown, USA
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No. It's called I've noticed that much of what this forum represents anymore is petty bickering, name-calling, and flaring tempers over the most trivial of issues. At least when weluvpa and I got into some of our epic political battles about Scranton we'd rely upon the reliable "battle lines" to be drawn with a few regulars on his side and a few on mine. Most of our debating was done in a civilized manner. Then when we tuckered ourselves out there were always plenty of people posting new threads looking for helpful information or plenty of threads that people like Summering, I LOVE PA, memoriesbre, and others who chose not to get into our feuds would post to lighten up everyone's spirits. Now there's so little activity on here that it barely registers a blip compared to what this place used to have. MovingOutofNJ is also soon leaving the area, and I think The Commish is gone as well.

Soon this forum will be nothing but threads in which everyone is either ganging up on shoegal111 or whining about how much they hate Scranton (with half of the replies in either case deleted by toobusytoday anyways). This sub-forum hit a wonderful "peak" already, and it's sad, in a sense, to see it start a gradual downward slide. Back in mid-2006 when I first stumbled upon this place it was so much better.
But that's what gives this forum it's fire, without it is quite boring. I like the heated debates and when tempers flare. How many times do we have to endure where to buy a lamp or what pizza place is best, even the pizza thread caused controversy here. I like it better when something is going on here, that's why I don't post much on here anymore, because I believe it's lost some of it's "edge".
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