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Old 07-09-2007, 09:28 PM
 
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I just moved to Falls Church and have a few questions about I-66. I noticed that during rush hour, I-66 inside 495 is all-lanes HOV. Am I correct that this only extends to 495? Someone told me it was further than that, but the signs seem to indicate that I-66 is only all-HOV to 495.

Also, I noticed the "speed enforced by aircraft" signs. Is this really true? I didn't see a single aircraft of any kind on my many times on I-66, but I did see a few cop cars. Anyone have experience with these "aircrafts"?
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:29 PM
 
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Just inside 495 is all HOV-2. There are X-lanes (lanes open only during rush hour) and HOV-lanes outside the Beltway, but single-passenger cars can use it anytime. The exception on 66 inside the Beltway is traffic headed to Dulles airport. You don't need two people to do that.

The 'aircraft' would be helicopters, but I never see them either. Plenty of patrols though...particularly on Sunday morning. Be very wary on a Sunday morning...
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:32 PM
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You can ignore those "aircraft" signs...I didn't know they actually fooled anyone. The idea was that they'd fly aircraft and track cars, based on how fast they were moving relative to the 0.10 mile markers along the major roads. No way they'd waste that much money on flying helicopters or other aircraft to enforce the speed limit when they can hide a cop car behind a tree. Not that it really matters, but I also think that they decided it was hearsay evidence to have a cop in an airplane telling a cop on the ground that someone was speeding, and have them use that as evidence.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:42 PM
 
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Haha, I always forget almost the "speed enforced by aircraft" signs. Are these unique to the DC area? I can't recall seeing them elsewhere, but then again, considering I've always pretty much ignored them growing up here due to their ridiculousness, my eyes may have glazed over similar signs elsewhere.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:27 AM
 
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Haha, I always forget almost the "speed enforced by aircraft" signs. Are these unique to the DC area? I can't recall seeing them elsewhere, but then again, considering I've always pretty much ignored them growing up here due to their ridiculousness, my eyes may have glazed over similar signs elsewhere.
These ain't unique to the DC area. i saw them a lot in hampton roads also. I ignore them too.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:42 AM
 
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The speed detected by aircraft signs can be found at any entry point into Virginia from other states. I actually knew a state trooper that did this. They have a small plane and they calculate your speed by using the white lines painted across the highway and a stopwatch. They then will radio in to troopers in vehicles. He said the tickets will typically stand in court. While it's not that common that they do it...they do it none the less. This trooper happened to work in the Fredericksburg area.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:55 AM
 
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Yeah, I figured they weren't really using aircraft... what a waste of money. But I had never seen signs like that before (or at least none that I remember). Just thought it was funny and didn't actually think I should be too concerned about them.

Thanks for the info... my main concern was the HOV lanes inside 495! How do they know if you're going to Dulles or not? Doesn't that kind of make it difficult to enforce?
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:17 PM
 
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Thanks for the info... my main concern was the HOV lanes inside 495! How do they know if you're going to Dulles or not? Doesn't that kind of make it difficult to enforce?
Try getting off 66 at any exit other than 267 during HOV hours. Instant ticket. Try staying on 66 past the 267 exit. Doh!
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:32 PM
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Yes, they often pile 6-7 cop cars along the shoulders of the exits during peak times to catch cheaters. I would definitely not test the enforcement of this particular rule!
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:50 PM
 
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Haha I wasn't going to risk it... just wondering how they did it!
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