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Old 11-22-2010, 01:53 PM
 
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Make Sprinfield Mall an entertainment destination with movie theater, bowling alley, laser tag, ice rink and a spa offering budget friendly manicures, facials, etc.. Bring back the old fashioned ice cream parlor (Farrell's!). Keep the standard stores (like Macy's) and bring in popular teen fashions.

Spend the day at the mall, heck spend the whole weekend. Have a new budget minded hotel with some vacation packages for travelers.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Indoor malls lead to loitering by unescorted teens. The mall is not your babysitter. Get in and get out.
I've got news for you...outdoor malls lead to the same thing (I loitered plenty at the outdoor mall in high school!) And if there's no mall, they'll loiter at shopping centers or movie theaters or restaurants. or random parking lots.
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Novastan
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I think they should build a central plaza, ice rink, and outdoor shopping. I think it would be great if they encourage local universities to set up satellite campuses there. I think the site has so much potential!
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:56 PM
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Location: The Millennial Republic of Arlington, Virginia
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A nightclub for teens, a club for 20-somethings, a bar and grill, some local resturants (no chains).
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Tear down about 1/2 of it and leave Target, Macy's, JCPenney, and put in a Wegman's and maybe something like Orvis, plus a couple of decent, mid-sized, mid-priced restaurants. With the new open area, make it a hub for local transportation, such as parking for BRAC w/ express buses.
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Who cares?
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Longwood, FL
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The problem with Springfield Mall is that it's a victim of the times and it's in an area of urban blight. That whole area has become increasingly industrial and unsafe and there is no reason for a business with any class to be there anymore. There is no public transportation in or out, and driving there is a logistical nightmare made worse by the redesign of the beltway and I95, no easy way in and no easy way out. There is no thriving center of town, no corporate areas near enough that one could walk there. Nobody has a reason to go to Springfield anymore. That whole area needs a major facelift to make a case for keeping the mall or even building a new one. It would be sad to just demolish it, but sadder to watch it go to ruin on its own.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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The problem with Springfield Mall is that it's a victim of the times and it's in an area of urban blight. That whole area has become increasingly industrial and unsafe and there is no reason for a business with any class to be there anymore.
But there are lots of thriving businesses around the mall. If you look at the parking lots at Best Buy, Home Depot, Barnes & Noble, Old Navy, etc., it's clear there's shopping going on in the area. Even the Target and the food court in the mall do well- it's just that there's no reason for most people to venture into the mall any further.

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There is no public transportation in or out
The Franconia/Springfield station is a mile away and there's a free shuttle between the mall and the station.

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and driving there is a logistical nightmare made worse by the redesign of the beltway and I95, no easy way in and no easy way out.
How do you figure? From any direction, you're go through 1 traffic light and make a right turn into the mall lot. Not complicated in the least. Out is two traffic lights.

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There is no thriving center of town, no corporate areas near enough that one could walk there. Nobody has a reason to go to Springfield anymore. That whole area needs a major facelift to make a case for keeping the mall or even building a new one.
That's the point though- put some apartments/condos and offices there, and you've got more people to shop at the stores.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:43 PM
 
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I would like it to remain an indoor mall because I don't think the climate here supports year-round outdoor shopping. Plus, whatever outdoor, town center I've gone to, I find the parking to be atrociuos.

I think it needs a total facelift and it needs to get a Nordstrom, spruced up Macy's and better internal stores. The have great parking at this mall and it's close to Metro. What's not to love? And I don't know what the problem is with this mall.
I think the problem with malls in general nowadays is that they're expensive to maintain and there are fewer stores that are willing to locate in them.

Most successful malls left have turned themselves into destination malls- places shoppers want to spend the whole day. They're either filled with upscale stores and restaurants (Tysons, Pentagon City) or they're outlet centers (Potomac Mills). There's not many midrange malls anymore- they've been obsoleted by big box stores.

Enter the town center- less costly to run, more space for big box stores, and can be combined with offices and apartments to make sure there are always shoppers around. I don't think indoor malls are going to make a comeback anytime soon.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Orange Hunt Estates, W. Springfield
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The problem with Springfield Mall is that it's a victim of the times and it's in an area of urban blight. That whole area has become increasingly industrial and unsafe and there is no reason for a business with any class to be there anymore. There is no public transportation in or out, and driving there is a logistical nightmare made worse by the redesign of the beltway and I95, no easy way in and no easy way out. There is no thriving center of town, no corporate areas near enough that one could walk there. Nobody has a reason to go to Springfield anymore. That whole area needs a major facelift to make a case for keeping the mall or even building a new one. It would be sad to just demolish it, but sadder to watch it go to ruin on its own.
I agree with some of your statements, but, boy, your definition of blight and industry are not the same as mine. However, I'll give you that a couple nearby neighborhoods are aging. Where's the influx of industry you cite? "No public transportation." Huh? One of the biggest bus and rail hubs in the Metro system is a short walk away. Getting to the mall by car couldn't be easier with interstates and primary state and county roads all passing near. Yes, the whole area needs a facelift. Downtown Springfield on the opposite side of of I-95 was scheduled for just that until the economy tanked. If that happens in the future, there's plenty reasons for the mall to be rejuvenated. Some movement has happened recently with the demolition of two vacant restaurants and the old Circuit City structure in downtown Springfield. I'll predict that a critical mass of new construction will eventually come to the area--including perhaps a developer offering collective buyouts to some of the aging neighborhoods--and Springfield and the mall will once again be a destination for NoVA shoppers and diners and out-of-town visitors. I just don't know when!
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