03-04-2010, 07:49 PM
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When Verizon installs FIOS, they tear out the copper wiring. So then you're stuck...
Maybe they did this at one time....I've heard what you stated many times.
But, last April, I had Fios installed at my residence and they did NOT remove the copper wiring. I watched the entire installation, and even asked the guy about it. He said, "We don't do that". He couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me if that had ever been their policy...
I wondered if it was due to my 800' driveway and multiple poles on my property (too much work?)...so I made it a point to check if the copper wiring going into any of my rental properties (subdivision SFHs) had been removed. None had been (four of my tenants have opted for Fios). So, that's five houses that I know for a fact did not have their copper wiring removed.
ibecowtippin: At my house, the only Fios accessory that needs to be plugged in, that Cox didn't have, is the battery back-up for the phone...
Overall, I'm lukewarm about FiOS...I'm saving about 60 bucks a month from what I was paying for Cox cable and internet/Verizon land line. And FiOS has not had a single outage in the 11 months that I've had it....Cox used to go out regularly. But I don't see where FiOS performance is any better than Cox...just more reliable. I have no experience with Verizon customer service...as long as the damned thing keeps working, they won't be hearing from me.
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03-05-2010, 07:17 AM
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..so I made it a point to check if the copper wiring going into any of my rental properties (subdivision SFHs) had been removed. None had been (four of my tenants have opted for Fios). So, that's five houses that I know for a fact did not have their copper wiring removed.
Car54, how did you check your houses for the copper phone wiring? I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon was telling me I didn't have it but I do still (I just am not sure what it looks like). So, how did you identify it?
03-05-2010, 07:20 AM
Location: Northern Virginia
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LOVE our Verizon FIOS, we got a bundle deal and it was cheaper than Cox. Plus just love our picture, features etc.
03-05-2010, 07:31 AM
Location: Home is where the heart is
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LOVE our Verizon FIOS, we got a bundle deal and it was cheaper than Cox. Plus just love our picture, features etc.
The great thing about Nova is having choices. Glad to hear some people love FIOS but we absolutely hate it and are ready to drop Verizon for all services.
03-05-2010, 08:35 AM
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The great thing about Nova is having choices. Glad to hear some people love FIOS but we absolutely hate it and are ready to drop Verizon for all services.
I guess having a choice between two is better than no choice, but I'd sure like to have more than two options available for internet service...
03-05-2010, 05:26 PM
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Car54, how did you check your houses for the copper phone wiring? I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon was telling me I didn't have it but I do still (I just am not sure what it looks like). So, how did you identify it?
I just looked up at the poles and at the side of the house where the utilities enter the building. There are three sets of wires on residential utility poles...the top ones are the electric power cables, the middle are Cox's cables, and the bottom are Verizon's copper (and fiber) wires. The FiOS installer just snipped the copper phone wire at connection block inside my house and attached the FiOS wire to the same block. The existing copper phone wiring and Cox's coax wiring throughout the interior of the house are still in use with FiOS.
Since the copper phone wire was snipped inside the house, I don't see why it couldn't simply be reattached at any point in the future...unless Verizon intends to refuse to do so...
I should have noted that the five houses I mentioned all have above ground utilities....even if I hadn't been present for my FiOS installation, I would have known if they removed the copper simply by looking. In the case of underground utilities, I guess it would be hard to tell unless you were there watching to see if they jerked the copper wires back out of the underground conduit.
This is a total guess on my part, but I'll bet Verizon USED to remove the copper in order to prevent people from going back to regular phone service....and then they got sued over it and lost.
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