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Old 06-03-2011, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Manassas, VA
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Bigfoot.....this is what happens when PMS kicks into high gear.... I might want to mention that this was a few years ago.... And now I don't engage others anymore....it just isn't worth it. But - I was laughing the entire time in my car after that!
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Old 06-03-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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I don't understand all this rage... from adults anyway. Confrontations never turn out well.

When I was growing up in NYC, I did get into a lot of fights. A lot. I was an angry young man. But once I grew up and understood the repercussions, I stopped completely.

Whatever the legality of a particular area, I always defer to "the duty to retreat" from confrontations. I am not the world's teacher -- it's not my job to "give it to the guy who deserved it."

I don't escalate with words or action. If I could back off, I would, and if I felt my life were at risk and retreat were impossible or someone else's life were at risk, I would use what force would be necessary to preserve my life or the other person's life and retreat.

I do carry a pistol usually either openly or concealed with a permit. When you have deadly force at your disposal, you become extra vigilant about not escalating minor conflicts.

The only place I would not retreat from would be my own property.

By and large, I think NoVA is very safe and people not very aggressive. I found pre-Giuliani NYC and L.A. far far more aggressive and trouble-prone (and perhaps not coincidentally, it's nearly impossible to carry legally there).

There is very good correlations between being young male and violence. Since this area is full of older family types, the chance of a violent encounter is lower than in metro areas with more young males.
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Old 06-03-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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Bigfoot.....this is what happens when PMS kicks into high gear.... I might want to mention that this was a few years ago.... And now I don't engage others anymore....it just isn't worth it. But - I was laughing the entire time in my car after that!
Must have been the girls reason today at Wellington and Grant Ave. She turned against a red light right in front of me. Once we straightened out I raised both hands off the wheel in a "why?" gesture. Out came here left hand with a one finger salute to me. I just laughed which she probably didn't expect.
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Old 06-03-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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Speaking of altercations, I have to mention something sort of funny from my NYC days.

I saw a guy trying to mug another guy years ago there. He pulled a knife on a small guy carrying groceries and demanded the wallet. While I was mulling over helping the guy for a second or so, the little guy dropped the bag, grabbed the knife arm with one hand, elbowed the aggressor in the face, kneed him (in the groin, it looked like) and dropped him and then stomped on his head. That guy had NO hesitation. All of that took about a second or so.

The funny part was, the guy then proceeded to take the mugger's wallet, take what cash was in it, tossed the wallet, gave me a what-for look and walked off with his groceries.
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Old 06-03-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC & New York
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I once had a guy push me in the chest, and it was about to quickly escalate when he heard what I had said to him. I was getting on the Beltway at Georgetown Pike, where there's a double left turn lane. I was in the right lane of the two, made my turn and the merge when a black Range Rover came out of nowhere and cut me off. I thought nothing of it and continued on my way when a large pick-up truck came up behind me and was flashing its lights at me. It continued to follow me, drop back, then get right up to my bumper. It followed me until I exited at Braddock Road and I actually thought that they might be trying to tell me something was wrong with my car, perhaps something electrical like all the rear lights not functioning -- not uncommon for British vehicular electronics.

I went to a parking lot and got out, when said truck pulled in behind me. I was looking at my car, turned around and had a rather large guy right behind me, who proceeded to push me hard in the chest, and was trying to start a fight. I looked at him and asked him what his problem was, and he said that I cut him off at Georgetown Pike and nearly caused him to have a wreck. I said that I did no such thing, and he said that he knew it was me in the black Range Rover. I said "This Rover is dark blue." He looked at me, at the car that I just got out of, ran back to his truck and moved at the fastest rate I have ever witnessed for a large truck like that.
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Old 06-03-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Manassas, VA
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Must have been the girls reason today at Wellington and Grant Ave. She turned against a red light right in front of me. Once we straightened out I raised both hands off the wheel in a "why?" gesture. Out came here left hand with a one finger salute to me. I just laughed which she probably didn't expect.
And that is exactly what I do now. What I don't understand and probably never will - is how when someone else is in the wrong - they get mad at us? Now - two weeks ago I was going to the Home Depot...and for some reason I looked ahead and saw the green light...but that was ahead. What I should have been doing was stopping at the stop sign right in front of me. Instead - I cut right in front of this guy (who was stopped)....I felt so bad. He started yelling at me and I rolled down my window and waved my hands in front of me saying that I was very sorry and that I didn't mean to cut in front of him...it was completely my fault and I just was not paying attention. He then waved his hand back - said, no problem, and we both went on our way. But....I didn't start yelling at him or giving him the salute for my wrong doing... I'm sure I've done other things that maybe I wasn't even aware of....

So now I just try and let it all go. It isn't worth it to get in a tizzy anymore. I've learned a lot over the last few years.

And what the OP above was saying regarding the conceal/carry. I too have a permit and often carry a firearm....and maybe that is why I remain much more calm.

Like the other guy said - douche vs. douche. Yeah - probably so.
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Old 06-03-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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I keep reading this thread title incorrectly. I keep seeing "attraction" instead of "altercation" and it gets me every time!
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Old 06-03-2011, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Manassas, VA
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I keep reading this thread title incorrectly. I keep seeing "attraction" instead of "altercation" and it gets me every time!
I laughed out loud to that comment!
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