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Old 08-15-2011, 02:48 PM
 
Location: New-Dentist Colony
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Good God--WON'T THIS THREAD PLEASE DIE! DIE, THREAD, DIE!!!

Please, Mods, won't you close threads that are more than three months old?
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Old 08-15-2011, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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I do live in NOVA. Clinging to the Confederate past diminishes a truly wonderful state.
Very good on living here but we'll just have to agree to disagree on the latter.
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Old 08-15-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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It boils down to not enough people really worry about these things to change them. Usually it is the more transient residents who become upset over these names. By the time anything would be able to be pushed through the transient residents have moved on thus removing the motivation to the current push to change the offending name.

I was born, raised and returned to NOVA. I have always seen them as references to people from our history. Good or bad they are part of our history and heritage. Slavery was a big mistake in the history of the United States, but it was a mistake that most all of our founding fathers participated in. Where would one draw the line as to when you stop removing names? Leave them as a reminder of the mistakes of our country until we find a better name to replace them with.

If these names are so offensive to you take it up with your local politicians. Start a grassroots movement to get them changed. I have bigger worries than the name of the overcrowded school with the overworked and underpaid teachers or why the overused and under-maintained road lined with dying businesses is named after someone who held a political office on the losing side of a defining war in the history of our great nation.
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Old 08-15-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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Anyone in America should be proud to teach the children about a president who put us on a path to the moon and started the Peace Corp., with the help of Sargent Shriver. No one would be proud to share to exploits of a traitor who in the end was humiliated.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that (1) you weren't in touch with Gerald Ford before he restored Lee's U.S. citizenship posthumously in 1975, after stating that it was an event in which "every American can take pride"; and (2) haven't read many George Will columns lately, much less the recent one where he referred to President Kennedy as "callow" and "weak."

Not saying that I agree with either, but only that you're laboring under false pretenses if you think there's a unanimity of views about anyone in these parts.

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Old 08-15-2011, 03:12 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that (1) you weren't in touch with Gerald Ford before he posthumously restored Lee's U.S. citizenship in 1975, after stating that it was an event in which "every American can take pride"; and (2) haven't read many George Will columns lately, much less the recent one where he referred to President Kennedy as "callow" and "weak."

Not saying that I agree with either, but only that you're laboring under false pretenses if you think there's a unanimity of views about anyone in these parts.

wait, George Will lives HERE?
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:13 PM
 
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wait, George Will lives HERE?
PP referred to "anyone in America...." Will lives in Chevy Chase (or at least he used to).

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Old 08-15-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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Default Gerald Ford really?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that (1) you weren't in touch with Gerald Ford before he restored Lee's U.S. citizenship in 1975, after stating that it was an event in which "every American can take pride"; and (2) haven't read many George Will columns lately, much less the recent one where he referred to President Kennedy as "callow" and "weak."

Not saying that I agree with either, but only that you're laboring under false pretenses if you think there's a unanimity of views about anyone in these parts.
Gerald Ford was an unelected president. The restoration was a congressional act. President Ford's ridiculous statement aside, Lee probably should have been hung after the war. His mythologized example is a disgrace.

(I have moved my discussion along these lines to threads in the history forum. This lively debate is good example of one of many reasons NOVA is a great place to live. Civil discourse among educated people is one of our strengths)
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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PP referred to "anyone in America...." Will lives in Chevy Chase (or at least he used to).

well thats a relief.
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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Default That is uncalled for

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well thats a relief.
...after I complemented you, and others, for your civility and intelligence.
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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Good God--WON'T THIS THREAD PLEASE DIE! DIE, THREAD, DIE!!!

Please, Mods, won't you close threads that are more than three months old?

Wouldn't it be better to just not open this thread and read it if it bothers you? Although I don't agree with some of the posters I certainly don't mind reading their points.
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