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Old 09-19-2012, 12:12 PM
 
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Perhaps the below quote from the article was taken out of context of what was being said, but does this guy think that a tunnel would somehow spare a neighborhood from eniment domain? Like they are going to tunnel under people's houses or something?


Well, sure. We can make it the new and improved Boston Big Dig-type tunnel!!
I didn't know what that was until just now. According to wikipedia "The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the U.S. and was plagued by escalating costs, scheduling overruns, leaks, design flaws, charges of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal arrests,[2][3] and even four deaths."

Don't you think we ought to be able to beat that? We're Northern Virginia for pete's sake! WE CAN DO WORSE!
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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And, with this guy as our new governor, we shouldn't have any problems meeting, and exceeding, those goals.

Salahi kicks off campaign for governor | LoudounTimes.com
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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And, with this guy as our new governor, we shouldn't have any problems meeting, and exceeding, those goals.

Salahi kicks off campaign for governor | LoudounTimes.com
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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And, with this guy as our new governor, we shouldn't have any problems meeting, and exceeding, those goals.

Salahi kicks off campaign for governor | LoudounTimes.com
if you read the article to the end, you realize it is a reality TV stunt......figures.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Tysons Corner
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I didn't know what that was until just now. According to wikipedia "The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the U.S. and was plagued by escalating costs, scheduling overruns, leaks, design flaws, charges of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal arrests,[2][3] and even four deaths."

Don't you think we ought to be able to beat that? We're Northern Virginia for pete's sake! WE CAN DO WORSE!
We tried, it was called the mixing bowl, Mass Governor Romney was far better at being inept. Whats that guy up to now and days... wait he's doing whaaaaaaat?
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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We tried, it was called the mixing bowl, Mass Governor Romney was far better at being inept. Whats that guy up to now and days... wait he's doing whaaaaaaat?
The Big Dig was a project that started in 1982 and had it's opening in January 2002. Romney didn't become governor until the following year, 2003. You can blame a lot of things on him (whether it be right or wrong), but he cannot be held responsible for that debacle.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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The Big Dig was a project that started in 1982 and had it's opening in January 2002. Romney didn't become governor until the following year, 2003. You can blame a lot of things on him (whether it be right or wrong), but he cannot be held responsible for that debacle.
Ok ok, maybe it was a bad one (but us democrats have just gotten so used to blaming the guy before us).

Boom, there evened it out with a joke in the opposite way (that also makes no sense since Romney was the guy after).
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: among the clustered spires
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OK. In *theory* you could build a two-lane bridge where White's Ferry is now and create a diamond interchange at White's Ferry and 15.

You could also, in *theory* thread the needle between the Lowes Island and Bretton Woods areas with another two-lane bridge.

A tunnel would have to be dug under somewhere in NE Loudoun and emerge somewhere around Darnestown on the MD side near the western end of River Road. I don't know if there's any stomach in MD for making River Road four lanes out to that arbitrary point. Anywhere else and you have to **** off even MORE wealthy western MoCo or Great Falls types.

It might relieve some of the pressure heading north on 15 during the PM rush, although the biggest backup is where business 15, the Bypass, and Battlefield Parkway all meet up. There, you'd probably need to remodel/engineer that setup, maybe not going to two lanes *until* White's Ferry.
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Old 09-23-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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I didn't read the referenced article - but as a 60-year resident of the area, who has read local newspapers daily for several decades, I can tell you that MD will never agree to any bridge crossing.

The entire NW part of Montgomery County is by law a preserved, protected agricultural area (much like NW Fairfax County/Great Falls area, but even more so). Marylanders will never allow a major bridge, which will need another whole highway built to connect to on the Poolesville side, cutting across the upper County and which would lead to sprawl development. (The narrow winding roads existing now in the Poolesville area are clearly not adequate for the major traffic that would come with any new bridge).

Furthermore the MD government also wants to keep Montgomery Countians using BWI Airport rather than Dulles Airport, which a new bridge would facilitate their access to.
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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I didn't read the referenced article - but as a 60-year resident of the area, who has read local newspapers daily for several decades, I can tell you that MD will never agree to any bridge crossing.

The entire NW part of Montgomery County is by law a preserved, protected agricultural area (much like NW Fairfax County/Great Falls area, but even more so). Marylanders will never allow a major bridge, which will need another whole highway built to connect to on the Poolesville side, cutting across the upper County and which would lead to sprawl development. (The narrow winding roads existing now in the Poolesville area are clearly not adequate for the major traffic that would come with any new bridge).

Furthermore the MD government also wants to keep Montgomery Countians using BWI Airport rather than Dulles Airport, which a new bridge would facilitate their access to.
Since MD is so unwilling to cooperate, I feel as though we should charge a toll for any drivers coming into VA from MD. They can do the same for Virginians crossing into MD, but the money will mostly flow one way to us. Maryland residents have no retail, dining options or jobs in their dump of a state, so they're constantly spilling over the banks into VA to trash up the joint. I'm so sick of going to dinner, the mall or even just commuting and being run off the road by jalopys from MD with no state inspection and horrible drivers education systems. Damn I hate maryland.
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