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Old 07-02-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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For all those hopeful Fairfax County teachers, the vacancy list is now public. As usual, lots of jobs in ESOL, spec ed, and elementary. Here it is:

https://careers.fcps.edu/vl/Vacancy
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Old 07-02-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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For all those hopeful Fairfax County teachers, the vacancy list is now public. As usual, lots of jobs in ESOL, spec ed, and elementary. Here it is:

https://careers.fcps.edu/vl/Vacancy
What does the % column mean? Does 100% mean they're fully staffed or unstaffed?
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Old 07-02-2011, 08:41 AM
 
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What does the % column mean? Does 100% mean they're fully staffed or unstaffed?
It refers to the position hours - 100% is full time, 50% is half-time (20 hours), and so on. It's worth noting that in Fairfax, 50% employees get full benefits.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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It's worth noting that in Fairfax, 50% employees get full benefits.
Yes, but the cost is the same as a full-time employee, so it is a bigger chunk of your pay. It really gets expensive for someone who is less than half-time.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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Wow, that list is SHORT, even compared to when I applied at this time 2 years ago!
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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I would just like to say a note to put this in perspective for those moving here. Those who are more in the know- please correct me if I have this wrong.

Fairfax County has 175,296 students (projected 2010-11 data from the FCPS website) and covers 395 square miles. Assuming class sizes in the high 20's, that is approximately 6000 classrooms. In the past 5 years, I have seen figures ranging from 1300-1700 for new teachers hired each year (probably to cover change in enrolment or teachers retiring or resigning). This includes teachers who are not primary classroom teachers, such as special ed teachers, ESOL teachers, specials teachers, etc. I am not sure how many of these 1300-1700 hired each year are classroom teachers, and I am not sure what the number breakdown is between elementary and secondary. I am assuming that there will be more classroom teacher hires this year because the whole district has gone to full-day kindergarten, whereas previously a portion of the schools had full-day kindergarten.

The instructional vacancy list for "outside hires" is published on July 1. Outside hires can put in their applications earlier, but principals are not allowed to interview and/or hire these "outside hires" until July 1. This year the list has 36 elementary (K-6) classroom teacher positions. Doesn't this seem like a small number considering the size of the district? For all the currently unemployed teachers living in or moving into this large county, there are only 36 classroom positions available. This is a very large county, so where ever you live, about half of those jobs will be a significant commute away (although it appears that a large proportion of the jobs are in one particular area of the county). For example, in my case, only about 10 of those jobs are within a 10 mile radius of my relatively centrally located house (about 25-30 minutes without traffic but during morning rush hour 10 miles can be closer to an hour of driving).

It appears that FCPS does a good job of filling classrooms with "early hires" before July 1. But who are these early hires? I know that FCPS recruits out of colleges and also holds a job fair. The job fair is by invitation only. Who is getting these invitations? Do student teachers in the district get special consideration (I was told no- at least as of last year's hiring season)? Can principals hand-pick acquantiances/substitutes/etc before the jobs are open to others? Why doesn't FCPS allow everyone to apply to positions as soon as they become available, giving principals a wider choice? If you are coming from the outside, it appears to me that the door is closed until July 1, and for some reason by then there are very few elementary classroom jobs left. How many applicants do these positions get? I would love to see more diversification in the applicant pool to allow principals to not only have access to college grads and mysterious "early hires" and rather have the choice to fill positions with highly qualified "outsiders."
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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Yes, but the cost is the same as a full-time employee, so it is a bigger chunk of your pay. It really gets expensive for someone who is less than half-time.

Most people would give their right arm to be able to get full benefits working only 20 hours -- that is pretty unheard of in the private sector. Hmmm . . . a part time job in the school system is starting to look highly desirable!!
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Most people would give their right arm to be able to get full benefits working only 20 hours -- that is pretty unheard of in the private sector.
I never said they wouldn't--and I never said it was.
Is that what you are suggesting I meant?
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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I would just like to say a note to put this in perspective for those moving here. Those who are more in the know- please correct me if I have this wrong.

Fairfax County has 175,296 students (projected 2010-11 data from the FCPS website) and covers 395 square miles. Assuming class sizes in the high 20's, that is approximately 6000 classrooms. In the past 5 years, I have seen figures ranging from 1300-1700 for new teachers hired each year (probably to cover change in enrolment or teachers retiring or resigning). This includes teachers who are not primary classroom teachers, such as special ed teachers, ESOL teachers, specials teachers, etc. I am not sure how many of these 1300-1700 hired each year are classroom teachers, and I am not sure what the number breakdown is between elementary and secondary. I am assuming that there will be more classroom teacher hires this year because the whole district has gone to full-day kindergarten, whereas previously a portion of the schools had full-day kindergarten.

The instructional vacancy list for "outside hires" is published on July 1. Outside hires can put in their applications earlier, but principals are not allowed to interview and/or hire these "outside hires" until July 1. This year the list has 36 elementary (K-6) classroom teacher positions. Doesn't this seem like a small number considering the size of the district? For all the currently unemployed teachers living in or moving into this large county, there are only 36 classroom positions available. This is a very large county, so where ever you live, about half of those jobs will be a significant commute away (although it appears that a large proportion of the jobs are in one particular area of the county). For example, in my case, only about 10 of those jobs are within a 10 mile radius of my relatively centrally located house (about 25-30 minutes without traffic but during morning rush hour 10 miles can be closer to an hour of driving).

It appears that FCPS does a good job of filling classrooms with "early hires" before July 1. But who are these early hires? I know that FCPS recruits out of colleges and also holds a job fair. The job fair is by invitation only. Who is getting these invitations? Do student teachers in the district get special consideration (I was told no- at least as of last year's hiring season)? Can principals hand-pick acquantiances/substitutes/etc before the jobs are open to others? Why doesn't FCPS allow everyone to apply to positions as soon as they become available, giving principals a wider choice? If you are coming from the outside, it appears to me that the door is closed until July 1, and for some reason by then there are very few elementary classroom jobs left. How many applicants do these positions get? I would love to see more diversification in the applicant pool to allow principals to not only have access to college grads and mysterious "early hires" and rather have the choice to fill positions with highly qualified "outsiders."
I wonder how much of an advantage those early fairs are, because the principal of my school never hired anyone there that I know of. We always seemed to be up in the air about a lot of positions until the very last minute - sometimes people were hired the very week that school started, and occasionally even after. I think there are positions available even now that are not on the list, either because the principal hasn't gotten around to it or because he or she still isn't sure what the staffing needs are. I would not limit myself to this list if I wanted a job - I'd send resumes anywhere I wanted to work even if they didn't have a position listed.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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I think there are positions available even now that are not on the list, either because the principal hasn't gotten around to it or because he or she still isn't sure what the staffing needs are. I would not limit myself to this list if I wanted a job - I'd send resumes anywhere I wanted to work even if they didn't have a position listed.

Thanks for the interesting comment. That is what I have heard... Last year I sent out about 150 unsolicited letters of inquiry (Fairfax and Arlington) before July 1, and I didn't get any real responses. In my opinion, my resume is not too bad (I am a career changer so have several advanced degrees including being licensed in the state). I wonder if I would want my child's teacher to be hired just days before school begins with little opportunity to prep. Why would principals do this? Do some teachers back out of their contracts at the last minute when they get other jobs at the end of the summer, leaving principals in a bind? I have heard about last minute hires, but how common is this?
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