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Old 08-16-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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I am apartment-seeking in Arlington. I've noticed restrictions with respect to visitors. I plan to take out a lease in my name only. My sister plans to stay with me a couple days per week every month since she does business here, but lives in Philly.

I am finding it a little difficult to understand how an apartment complex can control who visits you and for how long. As long as it doesn't interfere with the peace or cause damage....comments?
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:00 PM
 
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I think what they are really trying to control is people subletting--some people might fill a small apartment with a lot of people (and subletting to them) and exceed the amount of people who can safely live in the apartment. But like you, I can't see how they can really enforce/control who visits and when if it's just one person who stops by frequently. My guess is they wouldn't really even "care" unless someone complained about it.
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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I don't think the problem is quite prevalent here in the Northern VA area but I've read in news stories that in some states, especially in the western border states like CA, TX and NM, two, three, four, sometimes even more, whole families are crammed into tiny little apartments, giving way to overcrowding, crime and other things. So I think that's what the apartment managers are trying to avoid.
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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Is there not some rules on the complex's insurance about occupancy. Plus if you stay in some place for some set amount of time, then they count you as living there. I was thinking the rule had more to do with liability to the landlord than anything else.
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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I guess I am also curious as to how they monitor/enforce this - room checks? LOL
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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It's basically to prevent "visitors" from living at the apartment but not being on the lease. The one's I have seen generally state that someone can't stay for more than x consecutive nights or more than x days in a month. The restricts are typically reasonable and it sounds like your sister would be able to stay within the bounds of most leases. It's also a safeguard that more likely than not will not be enforced so long as no one complains. So be nice to the neighbors
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:53 PM
 
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Does your sister's plan for visiting violate the specific terms spelled out in the lease? If not, you may want to tell them about the plan and get their agreement, so that you won't have to tiptoe around neighbors that may be too nosy.
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:00 AM
 
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There are several reasons for these clauses...One example is many complexes don't have separate water meters for each apartment and instead base the water bill on occupancy and square footage of the rental - in this case it isn't "fair" to other renters in the complex to have to pay for the increase in water caused by your extended stay guest who is not on the lease and thus using more water without causing you to be charged for it. There are also liability issues and they need to follow occupancy laws which have limits on the number of people that can live in a rental. Also, you need to take in consideration that additional tenants (on and off the lease) add additional wear and tear on the complex, can cause parking problems, increase trash output, sewage output, the list can go on. It may sound unreasonable but there are actually many reasons a complex will have these clauses.

Jim
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:34 AM
 
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There are several reasons for these clauses...One example is many complexes don't have separate water meters for each apartment and instead base the water bill on occupancy and square footage of the rental - in this case it isn't "fair" to other renters in the complex to have to pay for the increase in water caused by your extended stay guest who is not on the lease and thus using more water without causing you to be charged for it. There are also liability issues and they need to follow occupancy laws which have limits on the number of people that can live in a rental. Also, you need to take in consideration that additional tenants (on and off the lease) add additional wear and tear on the complex, can cause parking problems, increase trash output, sewage output, the list can go on. It may sound unreasonable but there are actually many reasons a complex will have these clauses.

Jim
If one person rents the apartment at rent $X and 2 people rent similar apartment a+b=X, how is having a visitor a few days a month going to hurt the other tenants? Isn't the rent the same no matter if 1 or more people become tenants? My family of 5 pays the same rent as a family of 2.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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DKF: Jim's talking, in part, about utility costs if those are included in rents, which at some places is the case. Your family of 5 does not use the same amount of water, say, as a family of 2. So at an apt complex that does not have separate water meters, that's a big monetary difference that everybody has to bear eventually.

Also, short-term guests could easily turn into long-term guests in some instances (especially in this economy), guests whom the owners have not vetted as people they want on their property.

Clauses protect owners against worst-case scenarios.
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