Occupy the Greenway?

[saganista]

Originally Posted by Caladium

OK, I'm willing to apologize for borrowing your joke to liven up the thread title, but that's about it.

I don't mind that. I didn't copyright it or anything. It's what came after the thread title that has been wall-to-wall problematic.

Originally Posted by Caladium

If you don't like the responses you get to posts you make in a thread, may I suggest toning down the accusations, especially accusations about serious crime. That also goes for "inferences" of accusations. If you don't like somewhat vitriolic responses, be aware you're just as likely to provoke them by saying "I hate corporate fraud" (as a direct answer to "Why does this bother you") as by saying "I accuse them of corporate fraud."

I believe I stated that I was not a fan of corporate fraud, a far less emotional stance than what your inappropriate use of quotation marks has tried to translate it into. And claiming even in less-than-mass-marketed adverstining to a general audience that rebates of up to 15% are available when motorists need to average at least six paid trips per day to reach that level is deliberately deceptive and misleading. The 15% rebate level was not created with an expectation that any motorist would be able to qualify for it. This was of course explained in full in the earlier post.

And by the way, it hasn't so much been the level of vitriol as the level of misinformation and falsehood that has been objected to in responses.

Originally Posted by Caladium

I'm cool with people making an accusation like that if you back it up with the sort of evidence that will stand up in court. Otherwise, it's going a bit too far IMO. Corporate fraud is a serious crime. Simply stating that in your opinion people won't use a rebate program, doesn't make someone guilty of criminal activity. If you're going to claim there's advertising that's part of this "fraud," show evidence.

Any advertising or promotion that misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities or geographic origin of goods, services or commercial activities
-- Lanham Act, 15 USC 1125.

Originally Posted by Caladium

On the other hand, the good news is that you brought up the VIP Program. I didn't know about it, and apparently this was useful information for a few other people, too. I've heard from one person on this forum who's signing up for it after reading your posts. So, even though I didn't care for the comments about "corporate fraud," I'm glad that you brought it up.

I include useful information in my posts whenever I can. There is a shortage of that hereabouts, though surprisingly as often among some of those who actually live here as among those seeking to move into the area. Perhaps there will be a few investors who will have been made more wary of potential pitfalls in the local market as well.

[newnewsmama]

I first learned the 15% rebate program from a banner hung around the Greenway toll Booth. I signed up and was able to qualify for the rebate every year. If you commute regularly on the Greenway, it is not difficult to qualify at all.

[talentous]

Originally Posted by spleuchan

Out of all the things to gripe about regarding the greenway, I wouldn't pick their VIP program. Your attitude regarding this reminds me of the Capital One commercial with Jimmy Fallon, "Everyone likes more cash...well almost everyone" and then they show the baby refusing more cash.

For the past year, it was possible to expense the Greenway toll charge as my job requires frequent trips outside of Loudoun. After one year of steady use, the return from the VIP Cash back program totaled $50 bucks. Not worth it... considering after each month of use totaling $200+

[dbncoold]

Originally Posted by Caladium

I don't get it--why the resentment? If you don't want to pay the toll, take the public road--it's not like there's no other roads and you're forced to pay the toll.

I would gladly take the public road if the state provided a decent one.

The whole existence of the Dulles Greenway toll road, Rt 267, and other toll roads is proof of the severe incompetence of the stupid VA state government, the federal government, the counties, the VDOT, and all of those useless agencies. They collect so much taxes, and FREE public roads should be the #1 most basic service a government provides for its people, yet they fail with this most basic task (and most other tasks as well). Perhaps I might be willing to pay for a toll road if I didn't have to pay for roads already via income tax, gasoline tax, and the million other taxes I already pay for roads (or is it for the official's salaries?)

Rt 7 should be turned into a freeway, and that will be the end of both toll roads. There should not be a single traffic light on Rt 7, but instead we see one every half a mile and at each stupid little subdivision. I can't believe how people put up with this corruption.