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Old 01-13-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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Raising weekend rates and losing some riders would not necessarily be a bad thing. They would have to estimate if the increased rates could offset the lost ridership, but if it could it would be a good move. Same revenue, less riders = less overhead & maintenance.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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I've spoken with a few former Metro workers and they said the main problem is that the organization is not run like a business or even a public utility. Its basically an urban "make-work" program.
The DC area would collapse without its little "make-work" program. Metro has been the backbone of the growth and prosperity the region has enjoyed these past 20 years or so.

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Efficiency and quality are not stressed and there's minimal employee accountability.
Thanks for that well-documented analysis. I'm sure it's right on the mark.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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Keep in mind that while the figure varies slightly over time, fares paid by riders cover only about 55% of Metro's annual operating costs. They are forced to go scrounge the rest up somewhere.
I wonder if this percentage counts all the government workers who get metro checks every month and ride for free (or close to it). I'm guessing this 55% would decrease quite a bit.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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I think maybe Metro should be closed on weekends. Its usually not that busy and they charge less fares, so weekends must be a big money loser for it.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:18 PM
 
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I wonder if this percentage counts all the government workers who get metro checks every month and ride for free (or close to it). I'm guessing this 55% would decrease quite a bit.
SmartBenefits are free to the employee because the employer pays them. Metro gets the money. Not all employers use this option. Some allow only a pre-tax deduction from salary. In that case, the employee pays. Metro still gets the money.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:55 PM
 
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I think maybe Metro should be closed on weekends. Its usually not that busy and they charge less fares, so weekends must be a big money loser for it.
An average Saturday sees about 350,000 riders on Metro rail. An average Sunday sees about 250,000. Weekday non-holiday average is around 750,000, much of it strangely concentrated during what are called the morning and evening rush hours.

Quick Quiz: What Were the Ten Busiest Metro Stations in 2011?

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Number 10: Pentagon City
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Number 9: Rosslyn
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Number 8: Foggy Bottom
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Number 7: L'Enfant Plaza
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Number 6: Farragut West
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Number 5: Dupont Circle
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Number 4: Farragut North
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Number 3: Gallery Place-Chinatown
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Number 2: Metro Center
And the #1 mostest busiest Metro station of them all in 2011 was...
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Aw, c'mon. The other candidates are all eliminated. You don't need me to tell you what #1 was.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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Metro has been the backbone of the growth and prosperity the region has enjoyed these past 20 years or so.
No it hasn't.
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Old 01-14-2012, 04:13 AM
 
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No it hasn't.
Good of you to have gone to all the time and trouble of developing that broad array of evidence in support of your claim.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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Overheard in D.C.: Metro: DCist

Totally anecdotal, of course, but perhaps with a bit of credibility as it appears in a blog that generally celebrates DC's urbanity.
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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Good of you to have gone to all the time and trouble of developing that broad array of evidence in support of your claim.
Talk about pot and the kettle.

Do you work for Metro or something? You seem to be taking the criticism personally. And the tone of your posts is unnecessarily sarcastic and insulting.
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