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Old 01-25-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: NoVA
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Also we hired someone who was making over the GS13/Step 12 rate so we could not bring them in as a GS-14. But we did bring that person in as a GS-13/Step 12 and provided a rather large signing bonus. Not everyone gets that, it really depends on how bad that want/need you.
Wow Christine, your agency has Step 12's?
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:24 AM
 
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One other thing you can negotiate for are perks. I've only been a FTE for a year but when I was in the hiring process I was able to negotiate leave. I was actually fine with the salary, but I had been there as a contractor for 3 years already. I inquired if I could get that added to the federal service time, and they said no but I was able to get bumped up on the amount of leave I acquire per pay period instead. Yes it would have been nice to get those 3 years as Federal service, but I certainly like getting 12 hours of leave per month as a first year. I never would have received anything if I didn't ask
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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Wow Christine, your agency has Step 12's?
I'm sorry, I meant 10!!!!!
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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One other thing you can negotiate for are perks. I've only been a FTE for a year but when I was in the hiring process I was able to negotiate leave. I was actually fine with the salary, but I had been there as a contractor for 3 years already. I inquired if I could get that added to the federal service time, and they said no but I was able to get bumped up on the amount of leave I acquire per pay period instead. Yes it would have been nice to get those 3 years as Federal service, but I certainly like getting 12 hours of leave per month as a first year. I never would have received anything if I didn't ask
I got this too. I had 18 years of experience that was directly relevant to the position I was taking. That is the key is that the experience must directly relate to the job you are taking. General work experience won't count if it is not related.
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: McLean, VA
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Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the CD folks who jumped in with advice and information. I'll keep you posted.

Also...another person retired in that department on Monday (after 25 years with the agency). So, I'm wondering if they might have some $$ to play with. We shall see.

Thanks again.
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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I was able to negotiate for a signing bonus ~ 2 years ago.
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Old 01-28-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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New fed here (less than 24 months), I failed to negotiate my salary thinking that I would be messing up a good opportunity by being "greedy". HUGE mistake!!! I EOD'd (Entry on Date) with people who successfully negotiated a significant higher starting salary. The only thing is that my agency played hardball and made them wait up to a month before giving a response.

The only advantage I has coming in so low is that I was extremely motivated to do better...while it seems like the ones who came in higher were more comfortable. I'm officially on the fast track, volunteering for anything that can get me ahead even if it sucks.

Good luck!!!
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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For all of the talk and all of the changes over the past ten years or so, understand that there is still a vast gulf between the flexibility that a federal hiring official has and what his counterpart in the private sector has. "Negotiating" means two rather different things here, but it is still worth asking. No, is about the worst that can happen.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:58 PM
 
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So, I just got an offer from a federal agency. Is there any room for negotiating? I've heard no (from friends, colleagues). But I have also read that, yes, you can negotiate.

I didn't expect the feds to totally match my private sector salary, but what they offered kind of surprised me. And the surprise was not in a good way. :-)

Thanks for any insights or advice.
Yes, you can negotiate. The process is called "Superior Qualification"
Here's the OPM fact sheet: SUPERIOR QUALIFICATIONS AND SPECIAL NEEDS PAY-SETTING AUTHORITY

Once you have a Tentative Job Offer (TJO), you can request SQA. Speak with your hiring manager for the paperwork. The agency can either accept or reject your request. They can not, however, rescind the TJO solely on the basis that you asked for a SQA.
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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To be eligible for pay adjustment based on Superior Qualification, you actually have to have superior qualifications. That means signficantly higher than others in the field. The quality of federal applicants tends to be high in most fields to start out with. Every use of Superior Qualifications authority must be individually documented and processed, potentially adding weeks to the hiring process, so even if you are that special, make sure the process starts early.
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