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Old 05-17-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I recently started a thread about moving from Memphis to NOVA (job offer). I'm currently a GS 12 Step 4 with the Department of Army and was offered a Job at GS 13 with the Department of Interior.

I couldn't really find any information besides what i can find on these forums about current government employees negotiating step increases prior to accepting a job offer. Is this difficult to do?

My only concern is that i would not be able to make enough living in the NOVA area (job's in Falls Church) on a GS 13 Step 1. I know with the two step bump I would still be at the GS 13 Step 1 (with locality pa and all).

Would it be possible for me to negotiate a higher step? Not sure if this is standard protocol but for the 2nd phase of my interview they wanted to fly me out (but i couldn't because of prior commitments) but opted to do a video conference.

Does government agencies have the flexibility to put you at a higher step if they wanted to or are they limited within OPM guidelines?

As much as I would love to take this position; I may need to pass if I couldn't move up higher in step (due to the high cost of living and having to support a family of 5).

Thanks in advance for any feedback
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Reston, VA
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I doubt that they will be able to offer you above GS 13/1 as you are currently are a GS 12/4.

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Old 05-17-2015, 10:20 PM
 
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I recently started a thread about moving from Memphis to NOVA (job offer). I'm currently a GS 12 Step 4 with the Department of Army and was offered a Job at GS 13 with the Department of Interior.

I couldn't really find any information besides what i can find on these forums about current government employees negotiating step increases prior to accepting a job offer. Is this difficult to do?

My only concern is that i would not be able to make enough living in the NOVA area (job's in Falls Church) on a GS 13 Step 1. I know with the two step bump I would still be at the GS 13 Step 1 (with locality pa and all).

Would it be possible for me to negotiate a higher step? Not sure if this is standard protocol but for the 2nd phase of my interview they wanted to fly me out (but i couldn't because of prior commitments) but opted to do a video conference.

Does government agencies have the flexibility to put you at a higher step if they wanted to or are they limited within OPM guidelines?

As much as I would love to take this position; I may need to pass if I couldn't move up higher in step (due to the high cost of living and having to support a family of 5).

Thanks in advance for any feedback
Did you apply to an "all U.S. citizens" or a "status candidates only" announcement?

If you applied to an "all U.S. citizens" announcement, then the starting step may be negotiable. If you applied to a "status candidates only" announcement, then the two-grade rule applies and there is no room to negotiate. Of course, if your performance reviews are good, then you may have a shot at a GS14 supervisory position in a few years. Generally, GS14's are Branch Chiefs and GS15's are Division Chiefs.
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by usmcmotort View Post
I recently started a thread about moving from Memphis to NOVA (job offer). I'm currently a GS 12 Step 4 with the Department of Army and was offered a Job at GS 13 with the Department of Interior.

I couldn't really find any information besides what i can find on these forums about current government employees negotiating step increases prior to accepting a job offer. Is this difficult to do?

My only concern is that i would not be able to make enough living in the NOVA area (job's in Falls Church) on a GS 13 Step 1. I know with the two step bump I would still be at the GS 13 Step 1 (with locality pa and all).

Would it be possible for me to negotiate a higher step? Not sure if this is standard protocol but for the 2nd phase of my interview they wanted to fly me out (but i couldn't because of prior commitments) but opted to do a video conference.

Does government agencies have the flexibility to put you at a higher step if they wanted to or are they limited within OPM guidelines?

As much as I would love to take this position; I may need to pass if I couldn't move up higher in step (due to the high cost of living and having to support a family of 5).

Thanks in advance for any feedback
Keep in mind that the first 3 (or 4, I don't remember) steps would get step increase every year (unless one really screws up). Once you get your 1-year at 13, you would also qualified to apply for 14 positions... Possibilities are out there in this area.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Thanks....I applied under status candidates; nothing like nsps though. I may accept the job still because of the work schedules and flexibility they have.
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:44 AM
 
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Do they pay for relocation or moving expense?
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:05 AM
 
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Do they pay for relocation or moving expense?
Sometimes. It will be in the announcement, I think, if they do. They always ask me if I want to pay for that as we are planning the announcement. It's decided before-hand.
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Do they pay for relocation or moving expense?
They should tell you when they offer you the job, along with all other benefits. Also ask if they pay for a Permanent Change of Station (PCS) with guarantee home sale. A PCS will pay for your moving expense and a guarantee home sale will pay for the appraised value of your home if you are not getting an offer in X days, plus closing cost of selling and buying your new home at your new station.
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Old 05-24-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Sometimes. It will be in the announcement, I think, if they do. They always ask me if I want to pay for that as we are planning the announcement. It's decided before-hand.
Yes PCS and TQSE is authorized, i wouldn't make this move if it wasn't.
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Old 05-26-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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Just be mindful that private sector jobs are able to pay more because of the overhead. If you're able to negotiate the offer, don't expect it to be above what you're already making.

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So, I just got an offer from a federal agency. Is there any room for negotiating? I've heard no (from friends, colleagues). But I have also read that, yes, you can negotiate.

I didn't expect the feds to totally match my private sector salary, but what they offered kind of surprised me. And the surprise was not in a good way. :-)

Thanks for any insights or advice.
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