03-25-2012, 07:21 PM
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My husband is being transferred from California (LA area) to Herndon VA. I work remotely at home for a company in the Detroit area, so I will not need to worry about my commute, or finding a new job. His current commute is 35 - 50 minutes, and he is willing to have a normal commute up to 60 minute (understanding that accidents/weather/road closures could increase the standard commute), but we would like his commute on a normal traffic day to be 60 minutes or less.
My husband typically leaves for work between 6:30 - 7am and leaves work between 6:30 - 7 pm.
We do not have children, nor are we planning to have children, therefore we would like to move closer to DC, and not further out in Loudon County somewhere. Schools will not be a factor in our decision. We plan to buy, and will consider a condo/TH/SFH, with the maximum we would like to spend being $600K. We are willing to sacrifice less space for location, but would like something with at least 2 bdrm/2 bath.
We would like an area with walkability to coffee shops restaurants, bars, shopping etc, plus a nearby metro stop we would be able to utilize to get into the city on the weekends.
We plan to look in Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, McLean, Tysons Corner. Looking through the threads and research real estate on ling, it seems most of these areas would fit both in our budget and "normal" commute times, however would like a bit of information related to specific areas of these cities to help concentrate our efforts in the right spots of these areas.
I would like to know cross streets for these areas where we would find walkable areas. I know where Old Towne Alexandria and Shirlington are, however, I think both of those areas could be stretching the commute time - - please let me know if I am incorrect about that assumption.
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated! Also if I am missing an area that would have what we are looking for, recommendations are also appreciated.
Thanks so much!
03-25-2012, 08:29 PM
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03-25-2012, 09:04 PM
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My husband is being transferred there. He works for Volkswagen whose North American HQ is located in Herndon.
03-25-2012, 09:18 PM
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What about Reston? You should be able to afford a nice place close to the town center or other shopping, and the commute to Herndon would be a breeze. No metro (yet), but coming very shortly.
The commute from Alexandria will be nasty--I would avoid that. Arlington could give you what you want if you pay the price to be along the metro line, but I'm not sure how far your budget will go. I'd assume you could find a 2 br condo for that price, but I really don't know. The "walkable", trendy parts of Arlington near the metro are filled with tons of recent college grads (along with people of all ages, but the feeling is definitely young there).
McLean isn't really walkable. It's a very nice area, but I'd skip it. People pay tons of money to live there because the schools are great, which won't help you.
Tysons is currently mainly high rise offices. I wouldn't call it walkable (though I'm sure there are a few spots where you could walk to shopping or restaurants from)
Fairfax City is really quaint and walkable, albeit only maybe 3 blocks by 3 blocks
It's super cute, and has a lot of small businesses and charm. The cute part is the intersection of 236/University and the surrounding blocks. That might be a place to look into, if your budget works there (again, not really sure what real estate there goes for). There is no metro there though. I think the closest one would be Dunn Loring, which is a bit of a trek.
To be perfectly honest, if you're going downtown on the weekends, metro isn't the best option most of the time. It costs more to metro than to park downtown, and the time to wait for a train can be loooooooong when they only come every 20 minutes and you have to transfer lines. Plus, all track work is done on weekends, so there are frequent outages. I almost exclusively drive downtown on weekends. Parking is usually easy to find, and traffic isn't too bad. Unless you are walking distance to a metro, I don't think you'll use it much (and you'll pay out the nose to be walking distance to a metro you'll use 2-3x a month!)
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03-26-2012, 11:50 AM
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CaliTerp07 - Thanks for the information. We are considering Reston too, although for whatever reason my husband has that as "last place" on the list. He said it feels like a manufactured city of sorts. That being said we haven't completely ruled it out. We will definitely check out the area of Fairfax you receommended. He will probably be required to be back and forth between CA & VA while he transitions to the new position and they hire someone to replace him here in CA, so he'll try to stay in some of the various cities to get a feel for the commute. Right now we are just trying to figure out how to narrow down the options. We want to start the real estate search in the next 30 - 45 days and are hoping to have narrowed our search considerably by that time.
We almost moved to the area about 4 years, but ended up out here in CA instead. We are somewhat familiar with the area from that false alarm. In addition my husband has traveled to the VA office relatively frequently which has provided him additional familiarity...unfortunately he always stays right near the office so has no real knowledge of the commute. Most of the people he will be working with live in Loudon County, so won't be much help from a commuting standpoint
We are originally from MI, and I am definitely not excited to go back to a 4 season climate...I will definitely miss the sun, sand, surf, and mountains of CA!
03-26-2012, 12:12 PM
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I'd go for Reston. Or, if you want to be closer to DC Falls Church might work for you. To be honest, though, Reston seems to have a little more in the way of interesting stores/restaurants to walk to. Also, the commute from Reston would make your husband a much, much happier person than a commute from Falls Church.
By the way, there are lots and lots of people from southern California here. We lived in Manhattan Beach for 20+ years and would be happy to make comparisons to areas in LA if that would be helpful to you.
Here are some photos of Reston and Falls Church to give you an idea of the area.
Reston-Town Center and Lake Anne
Reston-South Lakes
Falls Church
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03-26-2012, 12:12 PM
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the tradeoff is going to be price and length of reverse commute on the one hand, vs intensity of urban walkable experience on the other.
1 Herndon - bit of walkability (i havent been there in years so not sure) but more coming when silver line metro is finished, cheapest option that makes sense, and shortest commute.
2. Reston More walkable/urban than Herndon, fairly easy reverse commute. Slightly pricier. Walkability is all newish, some call it "disneyish"
3. North Arlington areas from Rosslyn to ballston - much pricier, somewhat longer reverse commute, intense walkability, strong "20 something" vibe. Urban density is mostly newish.
4. DC - probably not much more expensive than North Arlington, longer reverse commute, much more diverse (than the north arlington yuppie belt) and arguably "authentic" urban experience
Old town Alex is a charming place, and kind of unique, but unless you fall in love with it I don't think the time/price tradeoff makes sense if you work in Herndon. Shirlington has much to recommend it, but I also dont think it would make sense (compared to say Reston) from someone working in Herndon
Its too bad folks dislike reston for the manufactured aspect (I understand why of course) cause its more of an urban walkable experience than Old town Fairfax, or even Falls Church, and a much shorter commute to Herndon and points west.
If what you want is grittier urban, and a shorter commute than DC, you might look at the Columbia Pike corridor in South Arlington - luxury high rise buildings, but a much more diverse area (for now) than the Ross-ballston corridor.
03-26-2012, 12:28 PM
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Fairfax City is really quaint and walkable, albeit only maybe 3 blocks by 3 blocks
It's super cute, and has a lot of small businesses and charm. The cute part is the intersection of 236/University and the surrounding blocks. That might be a place to look into, if your budget works there (again, not really sure what real estate there goes for). There is no metro there though. I think the closest one would be Dunn Loring, which is a bit of a trek.
Im pretty sure 600k could easily get a large condo, IF there are any on the market there. Or an older townhouse. Newer townhouses or SFHs might take more looking.
And I think the Vienna metro is actually closer than Dunn Loring.
03-26-2012, 12:29 PM
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Another option is Old Town Leesburg. Definately walkable - shopping, restaurants, bars right there. And it doesn't have that "planned community" feel. Lots of charm and unique properties.
Commute to Herndon (especially leaving at 6:30) would be a breeze on the Greenway (20 minutes?) and not too bad on 7 (about 40 minutes)
I know you wanted to move closer, and not out into Loudoun, but I think it is worth considering. I think you will find that you aren't really going into DC all that often (eating and shopping usually happen close to home, regardless of where you live); but if you do; it's really not a bad ride from Leesburg on the weekends.
03-26-2012, 12:35 PM
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I'm not going to critique anyones lifestyle, but for DW and me going into the city is very important, and to us the difference between 20 minutes to get in, and 30 minutes, and an hour, is signficant. It won't matter so much for a full day trip, but if you are scooting in for an evening activity, or something like that, it will matter. I also suspect you will find more people who are more DC focused closer in than you will in Leesburg (but I don't know many people from Leesburg, so I can't say for sure).
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from Reston Town Center to VW HQ in Herndon, google says its an 18 minute bike ride (part of that on the W&OD trail - Im not sure how good the biking is on Herndon Parkway) Now how cool is that?
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Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)