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Old 06-07-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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I get so tired of seeing these reckless driving posts... frankly if you're driving 80 mph around here you ARE using your vehicle as a weapon and your license should be revoked. ...........
How about this - There's a section of 4 lane road (concrete median divided highway) in Ashburn that USED to go from 45 to 35 (35 for one posted sign cycle) then back to 45. about 10 years ago I got a speeding ticket going 53 at a speed trap in the posted 35 zone. A full 18 mph over, and paid the ticket without going to court. About 4 months later they changed the speed limit to 45 on that stretch of road (which would put me at 8 mph over) . How was it that I was driving 'near reckless' based on when the powers-that-be decides to change a sign? The traffic pattern and road didn't change at all. Just the posted sign. While I agree that speeding is a problem in NoVA you can't deny that the majority of speeders are just regular people who are going with flow of traffic and it's a simple revenue generating system.

Another time I got a ticket going 56 in a 45 zone on a concrete median divided highway, that's 11 MPH over. In order to give me a ticket the LoCo deputy who was traveling in the opposite direction, had to make a U turn about 1/3 mile away because of the median, and went at least 95 MPH To catch me. How does that make any sense? Becuase he's got lights on he can exceed the speed limit by 50 MPH to write me up for going 11 over?

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Old 06-08-2012, 06:22 AM
 
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This is all just a money making ploy. They raised the speed limit to 70, but reckless is still 80. They knew that people comfortably cruise 10 MPH over the speed limit without harassment, and now they've opened up the pool of potential reckless drivers and revenue stream. Virginia is so messed up in regards to how they treat their citizens. VA has the harshest Juvenile punishment system in the nation, leads the nation in executions per capita and has some of the most ridiculous moving violations of anywhere. The speed limits are freaking 80MPH in Texas, and in VA that can land you in Jail. What a dump of a state.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:25 AM
 
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How about this - There's a section of 4 lane road (concrete median divided highway) in Ashburn that USED to go from 45 to 35 (35 for one posted sign cycle) then back to 45. about 10 years ago I got a speeding ticket going 53 at a speed trap in the posted 35 zone. A full 18 mph over, and paid the ticket without going to court. About 4 months later they changed the speed limit to 45 on that stretch of road (which would put me at 8 mph over) . How was it that I was driving 'near reckless' based on when the powers-that-be decides to change a sign? The traffic pattern and road didn't change at all. Just the posted sign. While I agree that speeding is a problem in NoVA you can't deny that the majority of speeders are just regular people who are going with flow of traffic and it's a simple revenue generating system.

Another time I got a ticket going 56 in a 45 zone on a concrete median divided highway, that's 11 MPH over. In order to give me a ticket the LoCo deputy who was traveling in the opposite direction, had to make a U turn about 1/3 mile away because of the median, and went at least 95 MPH To catch me. How does that make any sense? Becuase he's got lights on he can exceed the speed limit by 50 MPH to write me up for going 11 over?

There are tons of four lane, divided highways in VA where the speedlimit randomly drops from 65-45, 55-35, etc, and piggly wigglies just camp out. The only two speeding tickets I've had in my life were results of those situations where the police were basically on the other side of a speed limit sign (one time, standing on the sidewalk). What a waste of a potential career. To serve and protect.. yea right, more like to harass and collect.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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I recently had the pleasure of sitting up in Fairfax County VA General District court for several traffic citations. My cases were one of the last ones called so I got to miss hours of work while sitting and listening to everyone else's stories as I waited for my name to be called. Here are my observations:

1. Most people were in there for speeding tickets, and none of these people really received a "break" from the judge.

2. Those with a plus (+) balance of points on their license got their fines reduced by the judge, but were still found guilty of the offense. So even though the judge wouldn't comment on how many demerit points the defendant would lose on their license because the DMV handles that, I assume that the person would still lose the full amount of points. The only advantage to having + points on your license was a lesser fine. Those with negative points paid the full fine.

3. Many people were in there for Reckless Driving charges (a stupid charge in VA. If you go over 80mph or 20mph above the speed limit, you can be charged with the misdemeanor of Reckless Driving, at the officer's discretion. Meaning that sometimes, depending on the officer's mood, he can still give you a speeding ticket even if you are going at a reckless speed). I have never seen anybody going to jail for Reckless Driving, even though it is possible in serious cases. Most people found guilty of Reckless Driving paid a fine of $200+ and the DMV also takes 6 points off your license.

4. The judge won't give you a lesser charge on your request. The only way to do this is to get a lawyer. I noticed that many people who originally had Reckless Driving charges, had a lawyer who was able to get some blue peice of paper attached to thier file. This blue sheet was an "amended charge", usually for speeding. So I guess this means that the person is found guilty of speeding and not Reckless Driving, and pays that lesser fine and gets those points. Hence, you need a lawyer in Fairfax County to get your Reckless Driving charge dropped. Get a lawyer for any misdemeanor (like DUIs). I'm not sure if it is even worth getting a lawyer for a speeding charge, but you can try and maybe get your serious speeding reduced to Improper Driving (only 3 points and less fine). Even those good + drivers still got convicted of speeding on this day, but paid a lesser fine.

5. When your name is called, you enter your plea, then the cop says how many points are on your license and how many convictions you've had. They usually only have your VA driving record, but in one case they had convictions from MD on one guy's record. Maybe MD, VA, and maybe DC share records? See this document on point assessments and how long convictions stay on your VA driving record: http://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/dmv115.pdf. Points come off in 2 years, regardless of how long the conviction stays on there. The cop will also give his account of what happened first, and then you tell your side of the story. The judge will ALWAYS side with the cop.

6. Fairfax County does NOT send you to driving school in order to get your case reduced or dismissed. If you go to traffic school on your own voluntarily, it is only so you get those +5 points you can get every two years, to offset the points that you will lose when you are convicted.

7. For non moving violations (window tints, expired tags, expired registration, etc.), you can get your case dismissed with proof that you have corrected the problem such as pictures of your corrected car, receipts from the shop, and such.

8. Only one guy was taken out in handcuffs. But he had a DUI and a Reckless Driving charge. The judge fined him plus 2 days in jail (actually 90 day sentence with 88 days suspended, which is like 88 days of probation).

9. Only one guy got his license suspended on the spot. He had 3 prior licnese suspensions, several prior speeding tickets still on his record, and his lame story that he told the judge was so pathetic and stupid that a little kid could have came up with a better lie.

10. One girl was cited for going over 100mph in a 55 zone. I don't know what happened to her, but she had her case continued. She may face jail time or a license suspension for this egregious case.

11. Don't bother to try to talk to the cop outside before court to get a deal. They won't do it and won't give any legal advice. They will give you some general response. I've heard stories of some people finding a traffic lawyer in the halls on the spot, giving them a few hundred dollars, and the lawyer will work out a deal for you with the commonwealth of VA right there. Again, you need a lawyer to get a deal.

And despite what the cop tells you when you are pulled over, if you prepay your fine online, that is admitting guilt and you will still get all of the associated demerit points and any associated insurance rate increase! There is a misconception out there that prepaying your fine online avoids the points, nope!

Now things can vary by what judge you have for the day. I am by no means a lawyer so this is not legal advice, just my first hand observation.

Nice post. I just went to traffic court for a speeding ticket about a month ago, and item #2 from your post was true in my case and for the people who went before me. A couple of people asked for breaks on the points but the judge said he couldn't do anything about that (unless he were to lower the charge I suppose...but I didn't see him do that for anyone).
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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I got a reckless driving citation in Fairfax County for driving on a sidewalk, which i thought was a service road. The officer said she wold work with me if i showed up at court. what does this mean, what should i do?
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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Figure out what a road looks like?
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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I got a reckless driving citation in Fairfax County for driving on a sidewalk, which i thought was a service road. The officer said she wold work with me if i showed up at court. what does this mean, what should i do?
My guess is help get it reduced to Improper Driving or something equivalent. If you don't get a deal ten ask for a continuance and decide if you want to hire an attorney or not.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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There are tons of four lane, divided highways in VA where the speedlimit randomly drops from 65-45, 55-35, etc, and piggly wigglies just camp out. The only two speeding tickets I've had in my life were results of those situations where the police were basically on the other side of a speed limit sign (one time, standing on the sidewalk). What a waste of a potential career. To serve and protect.. yea right, more like to harass and collect.
Let me guess...US 29 from between Warrenton and Charlottesville, right? The stretch in Madison County is exactly as you described. On a bad day, the unlucky motorist could get tagged going downhill across the Madison-Greene line by both Madison deputies *and* Greene deputies.

Route 28 and Route 7 in LoCo and points west past the Route 28 interchange, all the way to Winchester, are not nearly as bad but still up there.
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:54 AM
 
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Hello everyone, big toe you seem pretty knowledgeable I have some questions for you and or anyone who can help me out. I just got a reckless driving ticket doing 92mph in a 60 mph zone. It is my first offense and my driving record is clean other then this. I've read many different things about getting a lawyer and not getting one and I'm not sure what to do. I definitely do not want to have my license suspended and am hoping to get it reduced or even dropped. Any and all advice will be helpful being that this is my first time in this situation. Thank you all
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Old 05-07-2015, 05:07 AM
 
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90+? Get a lawyer. If it goes well you will get a short license suspension and a big fine. If it goes bad, you will spend 2 days in jail.
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