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Old 08-07-2012, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Loudoun County, VA
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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What about Catoctin County joining up with Fauquier County? As for the rest of Loudoun County, have it stay a separate county or have it join Fairfax County?
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: among the clustered spires
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What about Catoctin County joining up with Fauquier County? As for the rest of Loudoun County, have it stay a separate county or have it join Fairfax County?
Even assuming Catoctin County became a thing, that's make for one long county running all the way from Lovettsville to Remington.

You'd have to have Catoctin County approve its joining (and maybe each proposed magisterial/supervisor district would have to agree to join?), Loudoun County agree to cede part of its county. Any merger with Fauquier (for Catoctin) or Fairfax (for rump Loudoun) would require approval of the other party.

You'll see Leesburg getting independent city status before Catoctin County became a thing. That'd probably require approval by Leesburg voters, then a separate approval by Loudoun voters as a whole, as well as approval from the General Assembly.

Blacksburg periodically signs agreements not to seek out city status and the VA General Assembly, fearing a repeat of the annexation/consolidation wars in the 60s and 70s in Tidewater (the 757, runining things for Northern Virginia again), periodically sets up a moratorium that is renewed every 5-10 years with minimal fanfare.

Front Royal/Warren County get in periodic tiffs where everything ends up on the table (e.g. making FR a city, unincorporating FR, merging the whole county as one town, etc.) but nothing ends up getting done.

Herndon and Vienna studied becoming independent in the 60s and 70s but decided against it.

Not sure about Culpeper and Warrenton and their flirtation with city status.

Then you get Pulaski, Purcellville, Wytheville, Abingdon, etc., which hare probably too small to become independent -- South Boston and Vinton reverted back to town status in the 80s I think.

Norton, Emporia, Covington, Buena Vista, Galax, Lexintong, and Franklin are the cities likely to revert back to town status.
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Blacksburg periodically signs agreements not to seek out city status and the VA General Assembly, fearing a repeat of the annexation/consolidation wars in the 60s and 70s in Tidewater.
If Blacksburg had gone the way of consolidation, would have they joined up with Christiansburg? Or have them, and Montgomery County, join up with Roanoke County and the city of Roanoke?
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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If Blacksburg had gone the way of consolidation, would have they joined up with Christiansburg? Or have them, and Montgomery County, join up with Roanoke County and the city of Roanoke?
Hmm. I don't know know enough about the thoughts/feelings down there. I don't think Roanoke City and County are exactly best buddies. I don't know if Blacksburg was big enough (it had 3,358 in 1950 and 7,070 in 1960) to begin gobbling up the surrounding parts of Montgomery County back when it would've been possible.

Winchester had 2x as many people by comparison and had a bunch of fights back in the 60s and 70s as well. Many of these fights were racially-tinged. In 1971, the city of Winchester gobbled up everything south of today's Jubal Early Drive and west of Handley HS. In fact, Frederick County MS (feeder to James Wood) is now in Winchester City. (A replacement in the County started in fall 2014.)

http://www.coopercenter.org/sites/de...8%20No%201.pdf

As for Tidewater:
Virginia Beach = formed by merger of Virginia Beach City (itself formed as a town in 1908 and a city in 1952) and Princess Anne County in 1963

Chesapeake = formed by merger of South Norfolk City and Norfolk County in 1963. This was also to stop Norfolk City from expanding.

Norfolk = independent from Norfolk County in 1845 and started gobbling up areas around it.

Portsmouth = independent from Norfolk County in 1858.

Suffolk = Suffolk city formed in 1910 from Nansemond County. Nansemond County and its towns of Holland and Whaleyville became Nansemond City in 1972, and then Suffolk absorbed Nansemond in 1974.

Newport News = incorporated as a city in 1896 from the former Warwick County. Warwick County became a city in 1952, and the two merged as Newport News in 1958.

Hampton = incorporated as a city in 1908 from Elizabeth City County (yeah, it's confusing). In 1952, merged with Elizabeth City County (and its town of Phoebus) to form the city of Hampton.

Other facts:
Richmond gobbled up some areas from Chesterfield in 1970 (after years of objections from Chesterfield). This is the area that is today the SW part of Richmond City. This is what led to the end of new city creation and involuntary city annexations (and any annexations by cities of more than 125k people.)

Salem, Virginia, was created to prevent annexation by Roanoke.

Even in Northern Virginia, there was Potomac, Virginia, intended as a commuter town in Alexandria County (now known as Arlington) the way places like Tenleytown and modern Upper Ward 3 were intended. But, the nearby city of Alexandria annexed it in 1930.

Falls Church (when it was still a town) dumped its southern, more Black areas to Fairfax County in 1887, and when it was still a town, fought with Arlington County over what's now known as East Falls Church -- it was ceded to Arlington in 1936. Only in 1948 did Falls Church become an independent city.

A proposal to merge Front Royal and Warren County was rejected in 1976.

http://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCente...File/Item/2316
http://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCente...File/Item/2446
http://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCente...File/Item/2313

Fairfax County threatened to consolidate with Clifton and form a city in 1961 -- Vienna at least debated becoming a city or even surrendering the town charter. (Note that property tax of $5.10 per $100, where are we, Long Island?)

In the mid-1970s Vienna decided being an independent city was too costly. And they still had traffic on Maple Avenue!
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:04 PM
 
Location: VA
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Loudoun is a microcosm of Virginia as a whole, there is an extremely conservative rural aspect which has gained better roads to move freight and better schools, and that money is coming directly from commercial/industrial/higher density residential taxes attained in the more progressive part of the state.
This statement tells me you know very little of western Loudoun roads. We have more than 300 miles of UNPAVED roads, which do not accomodate 2 way traffic well. I live on those dirt roads...they are not maintained. I deal with VDoT twice a month at least...for our road alone. So please do not tell me how our roads have been bettered by the eastern tax dollars...they have not.

But, the eastern mindset only wants to "better" us in ways like the Purcellville annexation...where they will take land that was zoned for 16 homes on 3 acres each and instead use it for 74 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, a75,000 sq ft retail center, an 80 room hotel, and a entertainment center that includes go karts and bumper cars... NO, Thank you!

Details on annexation: Packard Pushes Vote for Purcellville Crossroads Annexation*|*Blue Ridge Leader

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Old 01-12-2016, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA, USA
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Even in Northern Virginia, there was Potomac, Virginia, intended as a commuter town in Alexandria County (now known as Arlington) the way places like Tenleytown and modern Upper Ward 3 were intended. But, the nearby city of Alexandria annexed it in 1930.
Potomac became DelRay, a charming little community that still behaves like a separate town apart from the rest of Alexandria, and are treated as such. They hold considerable sway at City Council, and lobby for (and get) things that are not necessarily in the best interest of the rest of the city, or ultimately, themselves (such as the "straightening" of the Monroe Avenue Bridge -which gave Del Ray more land, but also cut them off from the rest of the city, and reduced cross town access considerably). They also lay claim to and have great influence on what is done to Potomac Yards. They also lobbied for a closing of a Del Ray fire station, only to change their mind later, after it had been approved. They are only concerned about Del Ray, not playing nice with surrounding neighborhoods.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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homeschoolmama is fired up about a post from almost four years ago
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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homeschoolmama is fired up about a post from almost four years ago
Homeschoolmama has a lot of time on her hands since she's not actually schooling her children, who she's likely pulled out of evil liberal public schools for indoctrinating her children with godless education. She tolerates living in the DC area because her husband has a decent paying job that allows her to hang out at the house all day and pretend to teach, but she'd prefer to be in west texas, Alaska, Arizona or somewhere else where the "gubment" would stay the hell out of her life.
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Old 01-12-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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Homeschoolmama has a lot of time on her hands since she's not actually schooling her children, who she's likely pulled out of evil liberal public schools for indoctrinating her children with godless education. She tolerates living in the DC area because her husband has a decent paying job that allows her to hang out at the house all day and pretend to teach, but she'd prefer to be in west texas, Alaska, Arizona or somewhere else where the "gubment" would stay the hell out of her life.
Seems like an unnecessary cheap shot based on every stereotype you can think of. And even if some were true (which I have no idea about), it's irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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